Hi, Many years ago I put up my mirror of a load of dec documents on http://www.openvms-rocks.com/~cvisors/ but this has been slow or down of late, but i have now put them back on my own site http://www.carnagevisors.net/dec94mds/ so hopefully if anyone needs these you can browse. If you want a copy of all of them (a 300+meg tar.gz file) just yell and I will torrent the file. As always Ivy Jane Gardiner -- kisses on the dancefloor in my past i need some comfort just like you beating like a bass drum time goes by i want the last dance just like you Covenant - Bullet