19 Mar
2006
19 Mar
'06
11:33 a.m.
Hey Guys,
This afternoon I'm cleaning up a Sony GDM-1602 monitor. I have the case
disassembled, and have washed all but the largest pieces. The base is a
very nice rotating and tilting design. The rotation taken place because
the plastic tilting assembly rides on a flat sheet metal base. The
contact area is a circular plastic ridge that was lubed with an
clear-ish amber grease.
What kind of grease should I use to re-lube this? I want to provide
adequate lubrication between the plastic and steel, but I don't want
something that will hurt the plastic. I was thinking about using
dielectric grease, since it shouldn't harm plastic, won't melt out, and
isn't too messy. However, it's designed as a moisture barrier, not
really as a lubricant, I believe. Thoughts anyone?
Thanks,
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
19 Mar
19 Mar
12:24 p.m.
On 3/19/2006 at 2:33 PM C Fernandez wrote:
What kind of grease should I use to re-lube this? I
want to provide
adequate lubrication between the plastic and steel, but I don't want
something that will hurt the plastic. I was thinking about using
dielectric grease, since it shouldn't harm plastic, won't melt out, and
isn't too messy. However, it's designed as a moisture barrier, not
really as a lubricant, I believe. Thoughts anyone?
I'd recommend Sil-Glide--a silicone gel. Safe for use with just about
anything, including rubber and nylon. Get it at an auto parts store.
Cheers,
Chuck
4:42 p.m.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
I'd recommend Sil-Glide--a silicone gel. Safe for
use with just about
anything, including rubber and nylon. Get it at an auto parts store.
Chuck,
I needed to go to the parts store anyway for some wiper blades. I found
the Sil-Glyde in a little packet. An employee told me they have a deal
with Permatex that won't allow them to carry full tubes of AGS products.
Come to find out the Sil-Glyde may have been made only a few hours
from me. AGS is based out of Muskegon, MI.
I've just spread the grease out on the sheet metal, and am assembling
the base now. Looks like it should work great! Thanks!!
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
5:47 p.m.
On 3/19/2006 at 7:42 PM C Fernandez wrote:
I needed to go to the parts store anyway for some wiper
blades. I found
the Sil-Glyde in a little packet. An employee told me they have a deal
with Permatex that won't allow them to carry full tubes of AGS products.
Come to find out the Sil-Glyde may have been made only a few hours
from me. AGS is based out of Muskegon, MI.
The funny thing is that the auto-parts stores won't sell full tubes of the
stuff, I picked up a tube at the local home improvement center, marketed as
a sliding door lubricant! I haven't seen it sold at the same place since,
so I suppose that was just a fluke.
Sil-Glyde is great stuff--on autos you can use it lube everything from
brake cylinders to window tracks. I've even used it as a slide lubricant
on a tuba. I suspect that competing products are nothing more or less than
the same material.
12:56 p.m.
Hey Guys,
This afternoon I'm cleaning up a Sony GDM-1602 monitor. I have the case
disassembled, and have washed all but the largest pieces. The base is a
very nice rotating and tilting design. The rotation taken place because
the plastic tilting assembly rides on a flat sheet metal base. The
contact area is a circular plastic ridge that was lubed with an
clear-ish amber grease.
What kind of grease should I use to re-lube this? I want to provide
adequate lubrication between the plastic and steel, but I don't want
something that will hurt the plastic. I was thinking about using
many years ago I got a tube of something that claimed to be 'Electrolube
Special Plastic Greast' (Electrolube being a well-known brand of cleaning
solvents, etc over here). It seems to be safe on all plastics I've tried
it on so far, and it should have suitable lubriacting properties for this
sort of thing (it's not exactly a high-speed mechanism!).
Where you get it from is another matter, but surely plastic-safe greases
still exist.
-tony
4:42 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
many years ago I got a tube of something that claimed
to be 'Electrolube
Special Plastic Greast' (Electrolube being a well-known brand of cleaning
solvents, etc over here). It seems to be safe on all plastics I've tried
it on so far, and it should have suitable lubriacting properties for this
sort of thing (it's not exactly a high-speed mechanism!).
Where you get it from is another matter, but surely plastic-safe greases
still exist.
Tony,
I think you suggested a product to me a few months back. I was able to
find commercial distributors, but no retailers. I went ahead an bout
the Sil-Glyde that Chuck recommended. Thanks for the suggestion, Though.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
20 Mar
20 Mar
2:27 p.m.
I think you suggested a product to me a few months
back. I was able to
find commercial distributors, but no retailers. I went ahead an bout
Brannds and prodcuts that are common in one country might well be
unobtainable in others [1]. Heck, it took me a long time to figure out
what 'Krazy Glue' was, and even now I am not usre (I think it's what's
commonly called supergule in the UK, that is an isocyano acryllic
hydro-copolymerising adhexive). Does 'Araldite' mean anything across the
Pond? In the UK, it's a common brand (and sort-of generic) for the 2-part
epoxy resin adhexives? What about Avometer (== analogue multimeter, VOM)?
[1] This even applies within Europe. I had some fun finding the
equivalents for lubricants, thread locking compounds, etc to the ones
specified in an official Citroen workshop manual.
-tony
9:07 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
Heck, it took me a long time to figure out
what 'Krazy Glue' was, and even now I am not usre (I think it's what's
commonly called supergule in the UK, that is an isocyano acryllic
hydro-copolymerising adhexive).
I think Krazy Glue is a specific brand name. We call that type of glue
super glue, too.
Does 'Araldite' mean anything across the
Pond? In the UK, it's a common brand (and sort-of generic) for the 2-part
epoxy resin adhexives?
Sounds like some sort of mineral, rock formation, crystal type thing a
geologist would study :-) No, we don't have that here :-)
What about Avometer (== analogue multimeter, VOM)?
VOM, yes. Avometer, not that I've heard of.... what does the Avo mean?
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
21 Mar
21 Mar
12:55 a.m.
Hi,
Chad Fernandez said:
On 3/21/06, C Fernandez <fernande at
internet1.net> wrote:
Exactly. It was a trade name owned by The Automatic Coil Winder &
Electrical Equipment Co. Ltd. of London.
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb at dial.pipex.com
The future was never like this!
VOM, yes. Avometer, not that I've heard of.... what does the Avo mean?
my guess is ampere, voltage and omega 
3:14 a.m.
Amps,Volts,ohms... they also made exposure meters etc.
http://www.diaxa.com/weston/avo.htm
Geoff.
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On 3/21/06, C Fernandez <fernande at internet1.net> wrote:
VOM, yes. Avometer, not that I've heard of.... what does the Avo mean?
my guess is ampere, voltage and omega
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
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On 3/21/06, C Fernandez <fernande at internet1.net> wrote:
VOM, yes. Avometer, not that I've heard of.... what does the Avo mean?
my guess is ampere, voltage and omega
Amps Volts and Ohms.
The product of the "Automatic Coil Winder and Electrical Company" of
England, now part of the "Megger" group. The last traditional (analogue)
AVO's were only made a couple of months ago, but have now been discontinued,
it is rumoured, because the Bakelite mould for the cases was damaged.
The AVO model 8 was considered the industry standard meter in the UK and
many ex-colonies, from it's introduction in the 40's until the advent of low
cost digital meters in the 90's. For reference, it is a 20k Ohms-per-volt
instrument DC, and 10k OPV AC.
If you need more info, I have some instruction manuals and service data on
my site at:
www.g1jbg.co.uk/service.htm
Jim.
5:21 p.m.
On 3/22/2006 at 12:52 AM Jim Beacon wrote:
The AVO model 8 was considered the industry standard
meter in the UK and
many ex-colonies, from it's introduction in the 40's until the advent of
low cost digital meters in the 90's. For reference, it is a 20k
Ohms-per-volt
instrument DC, and 10k OPV AC.
Sounds like our Simpson 260 VOM. Used as the standard for donkey's years.
Cheers,
Chuck
4:35 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
At least over here, 'Super Glue' is a brand name I think.
Heck, it took me a long time to figure out
what 'Krazy Glue' was, and even now I am not usre (I think it's what's
commonly called supergule in the UK, that is an isocyano acryllic
hydro-copolymerising adhexive).
I think Krazy Glue is a specific brand name. We call that type of glue
super glue, too. Does 'Araldite' mean anything across the
Pond? In the UK, it's a common brand (and sort-of generic) for the 2-part
epoxy resin adhexives?
Sounds like some sort of mineral, rock formation, crystal type thing a
geologist would study :-) No, we don't have that here :-) What about Avometer (== analogue multimeter,
VOM)?
VOM, yes. Avometer, not that I've heard of.... what does the Avo mean?
9:22 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
At least over here, 'Super Glue' is a brand
name I think.
Yes, I think it's a cello-tape/scotch-tape = all cellophane tape, no
matter who made it, type situation.
You must have the 2-part epoxy adhexives (both the
overnight setting one
and the 'five minute' one), right?
We do have 2-part epoxies, but my use of them has been quite limited.
I've used a product called JB-Weld, that I assume is an epoxy. I waited
overnight for it to set. I've never used a 5-minute type, but that
doesn't mean they aren't commonly available. I just don't use adhesives
that often. Usually I'm trying to remove an adhesive :-)
'VOM' is not commonly used in England at all.
In fact most engineers over
here would have to think what you were talking about. AVO is a brand name
-- the company made a lot of nice test gear, inclduing valve testers (you
get my Mk4 over my dead body...), transistor testers, signal generators,
etc. But they are most famous for multimeters -- AVO is an acronym for
Amps, Volts, Ohms. Many engineers over here will ask for 'An Avo' when
they want any old multimeter.
I'm not sure if VOM is used much over here anymore. AVO really makes
more sense, since a lot of meters also measure current, besides voltage
and resistance. However, AVO stands for something like "Avoid Verbal
Orders", which is a piece of paper or possibly a form that is issued by
an member of management to an employee. I believe it had a wide range
of uses in a factory, but has fallen out of favor now.... so much so
that I don't really understand exactly what an AVO is.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
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