On 05/06/2015 06:45 PM, Al Kossow wrote: I know a fair bit about the Jupiter 7. This was a 2-piece system. The keyboard was quite a bit larger than typical keyboards, with TWO joysticks. It had a row of lighted key switches above the keyboard. Then, there was a main box, with power supply, 8 bit plate 1024 x 1024 graphics memory, color look-up table, and a 6502 CPU. It also had a DMA interface that could download images at memory speed. I built an adapter to download images from a u-VAX. We had one at work, and I had one on my home UVAX-II. I got a factory test mule from Jupiter when they closed down the graphics terminal business for something like $150. The Jupiter 7 main box was the same width as the keyboard, about 3" tall and about 24" deep. You generally set the color monitor on top of the Jupiter. It has a rocker power switch and an RJ-45 jack on the front, and (I think) 5 BNCs for video and sync out on the back, plus some DB-25's. If it is not a Jupiter unit, it might be from an AED 512 or similar graphics box. Jon

Hi Jules, It sounds like an industrial Keyboard IBM made some Industrial PC that were Dark gray Bill At 07:46 a.m. 07/05/2015, you wrote:

On 05/07/2015 06:46 AM, Jules Richardson wrote: Here's an AED 767 : http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/aed-graphics-workstation/ We had an AED 512, which I think looked quite similar. I can't find any pics of a Jupiter 7 online. I gave my Jupiter 7 away to "Richard" through this list in 2012. if he still has it, maybe he could take pictures so you could compare what you've got. Or, post a picture, and I'll see if it looks like a Jupiter. Jon

On 05/07/2015 11:14 AM, Glen Slick wrote: Yup, that's it! Your Google-fu is better than mine. Jon

On 5/7/15 6:36 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: I was mistaken, it is an AED keyboard for the "Colorware" generation of AED 767 Dejag enables antialiasing of vectors. It's a kludge that steals portions of the 256 entry color lookup table Vern is Vernier, simulation of the joystick with cursor keys, from memory. It's a Keytronic serial kb.

On 05/07/2015 09:06 PM, Al Kossow wrote: Thanks, Al! Given how often keyboards seem to get lost while the rest of the hardware survives, it's here if anyone ever needs it. cheers Jules

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 08:36:02PM -0500, Jules Richardson wrote: Ah, this picture would have ended the speculation days ago. It's a keytronic keyboard compatible with VT100. I have one and will pull it out to see if it has the same labels or if your keyboard was intended for a special application. /P

On 05/08/2015 01:07 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Ok, I'll let you have that, I suppose it was ~27 hours :-) Yes, please check. This one has a circular DIN connector, 5 pins, 180 degrees, but I don't recall if that's what the vt100 has or not. Shame that whatever it belonged with wasn't there - if it was just a terminal then I expect it got tossed into their CRT pile, and that fills up and gets emptied far more frequently than the other bins. cheers Jules

FWIW, the PERQ 2 series uses a similar keyboard (Keytronics, roughly VT100 layout) without the LEDs. It's been some time since I've been inside one (I can open one up if needed) but I think the PCB in the PERQ keyboard has the traces/pads for the LEDs. I seem to remember various companies sold keyboards with VT100 like layouts, things like the LEDs were optional. You could also get custom firmware (which defined the interface), or get the specs to write your own firmware (I think 3 Rivers did the latter for the PERQ). The VT100 uses a 3 conductor 1/4" jack (Phone) plug, like a full-sized stereo headphone plug. The PERQ used a 5 pin DIN, but this is certainly not a PERQ keyboard. I think I have seen DE9 connectors used on such keyboards too. -tony