26 May
2019
26 May
'19
11:06 p.m.
Hi
????? Thanks to Glen Slick I now have a old windows xp system running SIMH
???? Its connected to my LAN so web and file access are OK
???? In addition to the normal IDE drive it has an additional SCSI
controller and drive
????? Using SIMH? I have created an image (RD54.dsk) containing a RSTS
system.
???? I am awaiting the final instructions as to how to copy the image
to the SCSI drive in such a way I can connect it to the SCSI controller
in the 11/93 and have it boot.
Rod Smallwood
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27 May
27 May
12:25 a.m.
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
???? In addition to the normal IDE drive it has an
additional SCSI controller
and drive
????? Using SIMH? I have created an image (RD54.dsk) containing a RSTS
system.
???? I am awaiting the final instructions as to how to copy the image to the
SCSI drive in such a way I can connect it to the SCSI controller in the 11/93
and have it boot.
# dd if=RD54.dsk of=/dev/sda [or whatever the device name is]
Oh, you said Windows... I'd recommend installing Cygwin ;-)
Christian
1:32 a.m.
Same command will work from a linux live cd
On May 27, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi
On an old XP box? er neither will run
Rod
On 27/05/2019 08:25, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
# dd if=RD54.dsk of=/dev/sda [or whatever the
device name is]
Oh, you said Windows... I'd recommend installing Cygwin ;-)
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1:56 a.m.
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
? On an old XP box?? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like tool
for Windows yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin (there
are instructions how to find them), by installing a stand-alone "dd" for
Windows, whatever.
Christian
2:25 a.m.
I think the answer may be PUTR but I'll wait and see what Glen says ..
He's been right so far.
Rod
On 27/05/2019 09:56, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
--
? On an old XP box?? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like
tool for Windows yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin
(there are instructions how to find them), by installing a stand-alone
"dd" for Windows, whatever.
Christian 
6:03 a.m.
Or FLX. FLX 2.6 uses DJGPP and runs on old stuff, possibly as far back as actual DOS and
certainly should have no problem with XP. It doesn't do image copy, though. You
could steal some of the code and make an image copy tool. Or you could use it to
initialize the destination disk, copy all the files, and "hook" to write the
boot block.
paul
On May 27, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I think the answer may be PUTR but I'll wait and see what Glen says .. He's been
right so far.
Rod
On 27/05/2019 09:56, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
--
On an old XP box? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like tool for Windows
yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin (there are instructions how to find
them), by installing a stand-alone "dd" for Windows, whatever.
Christian 
6:20 a.m.
I would love it if anyone on this list who maintains a wiki for PDP-11's could collect
all of the various methods and instructions. I am still far from ready to do things like
this (moving images to a PDP) but it is in my future. I could go through all the emails in
the archive on the subject (thats fine) but a wiki to go to where everything is
consolidated would be enormously helpful
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Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 9:03 AM
To: Rod Smallwood; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: 11/93 Rebuild
Or FLX. FLX 2.6 uses DJGPP and runs on old stuff, possibly as far back as actual DOS and
certainly should have no problem with XP. It doesn't do image copy, though. You
could steal some of the code and make an image copy tool. Or you could use it to
initialize the destination disk, copy all the files, and "hook" to write the
boot block.
paul
On May 27, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I think the answer may be PUTR but I'll wait and see what Glen says .. He's been
right so far.
Rod
On 27/05/2019 09:56, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
--
On an old XP box? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like tool for Windows
yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin (there are instructions how to find
them), by installing a stand-alone "dd" for Windows, whatever.
Christian 
2:28 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Christian Corti
via cctalk
Sent: 27 May 2019 09:57
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: 11/93 Rebuild
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
There are windows based, so GUI disk imaging tools for windows. I think I used
WIN32DISKIMAGER las time I needed this.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
Dave
On an old XP box? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like tool for
Windows yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin (there are
instructions how to find them), by installing a stand-alone "dd" for Windows,
whatever.
Christian 
3:08 p.m.
On 5/27/19 4:56 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Or build a disk with FreeDOS and Ersatz-11. Disks today
are cheap.
bill
? On an old XP box?? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like tool
for Windows yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin (there
are instructions how to find them), by installing a stand-alone "dd" for
Windows, whatever.
Christian 
5:06 p.m.
On 5/27/2019 2:56 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
I like this one, used to copy disc images to sd cards.
Ben. Windows 7
? On an old XP box?? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like tool
for Windows yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin (there
are instructions how to find them), by installing a stand-alone "dd" for
Windows, whatever.
Christian
6:25 p.m.
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 5:06 PM ben via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 5/27/2019 2:56 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
I did download and use that chrysocome.net version of dd at some point.
Standalone utility without any crap to install.
You'd think that after 10 years they could finally have a 1.0 version
instead of a 0.6beta3 :)
On Mon, 27 May 2019, Rod Smallwood wrote:
http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
I like this one, used to copy disc images to sd cards.
Ben. Windows 7 On an old XP box? er neither will run
My reply was meant as a hint. You should be able to find a dd-like tool
for Windows yourself ;-) Either by using a old version of Cygwin (there
are instructions how to find them), by installing a stand-alone "dd" for
Windows, whatever.
Christian
3:06 p.m.
On 5/27/19 4:30 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote:
Hi
? On an old XP box?? er neither will run
Rod
On 27/05/2019 08:25, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
Why would Cygwin not run? I ran it on dozens of XP boxes.
bill
# dd if=RD54.dsk of=/dev/sda? [or whatever the
device name is]
Oh, you said Windows... I'd recommend installing Cygwin ;-)
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