14 May
2007
14 May
'07
10:35 p.m.
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nicely equipped. In Canaduh LOL LOL
I am still looking for the color card and a monitor.
Canada is too far for me to ship.
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14 May
14 May
10:52 p.m.
On 14/5/07 23:35, "Chris M" <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Rainbow-100-pc_
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nicely equipped. In Canaduh LOL LOL
I am still looking for the color card and a monitor.
Canada is too far for me to ship.
*strokes VR241 next to my left foot*
I've got another one that I use for my Amiga stuff too.
:)
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11:01 p.m.
--- Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
wrote:
On 14/5/07 23:35, "Chris M" <chrism3667
at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Oi one option worse then the other LOL. I'm not even
aware of what freqs the 'bow's screens operate at, nor
the Amigas. I guess they've got to be close though ;)
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nicely equipped. In Canaduh LOL LOL
I am still looking for the color card and a
monitor.
Canada is too far for me to ship.
*strokes VR241 next to my left foot*
I've got another one that I use for my Amiga stuff
too.
:) 
11:49 p.m.
Oi one option worse then the other LOL. I'm not
even
aware of what freqs the 'bow's screens operate at, nor
the Amigas. I guess they've got to be close though ;)
THe 'Bow is pretty much standard TV rates. I can't remember if it only
does the US rates (15.570kHz horizontal, 60Hz vertical) or whether it
also does the European rates (15.625kHz horizontal, 50Hz vertical). The
hardware should be capable of both, BTW.
Given that the Amiga, at least in Europe, had applications in amateur
video productions, I assume its output is at standard TV rates too.
-tony
15 May
15 May
12:05 a.m.
apparently the Rainbow sports a measly 200 lines of
resolution. But one mode does 800 pels horizontally!
What's up with that?
I had thought the 'miga had some non-interlaced modes
(which still would be ntsc comparable frequencies),
but did the hi-res stuff interlaced, so as also
allowing the use of a broadcast monitor.
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5:44 p.m.
apparently the Rainbow sports a measly 200 lines of
resolution. But one mode does 800 pels horizontally!
What's up with that?
THe US TV standard specifies 525 lines, but rememebr that (a) that
includes the 'lines' during the vertical blanking period and (b) it's
interlaced. There are probably under 500 lines actually displayed in the
image, and if you're using a computer which sends the same data after
each vertical sync pulse -- thit it is ignores interlacing -- so that
pairs of lines on the screen show identical data, then you're going to
have something around 200 lines vertically.
The horizontal resolution is limited only by the bandwidth of the
circuitry and the amount of memory (essentially, the faster you send
pixels to the monitor, the more appear on each line :-). So 800 dots
horizontally is quite possible
-tony
6:54 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
THe US TV standard specifies 525 lines, but rememebr
that (a) that
includes the 'lines' during the vertical blanking period and (b) it's
interlaced. There are probably under 500 lines actually displayed in the
image, and if you're using a computer which sends the same data after
each vertical sync pulse -- thit it is ignores interlacing -- so that
pairs of lines on the screen show identical data, then you're going to
have something around 200 lines vertically.
That sounds about right. I think I could get about 270 lines on a UK
(625-line) set by hooking a PC's (S)VGA output up to it and futzing around
with display timings - so 200 lines on a 525-line set seems about right.
9:57 a.m.
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 00:49 +0100, Tony Duell wrote:
... and also professional video. For a while it was standard kit in
nearly every edit suite, for captioning.
All the little 3D sequences in the TV programme "The Chart Show" in the
90s were done on Amigas. Babylon 5 and Seaquest DSV used the
Amiga-powered Video Toaster extensively.
Gordon
Oi one option
worse then the other LOL. I'm not even
aware of what freqs the 'bow's screens operate at, nor
the Amigas. I guess they've got to be close though ;)
THe 'Bow is pretty much standard TV rates. I can't remember if it only
does the US rates (15.570kHz horizontal, 60Hz vertical) or whether it
also does the European rates (15.625kHz horizontal, 50Hz vertical). The
hardware should be capable of both, BTW.
Given that the Amiga, at least in Europe, had applications in amateur
video productions, I assume its output is at standard TV rates too. 
1:38 p.m.
On 5/15/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote:
All the little 3D sequences in the TV programme
"The Chart Show" in the
90s were done on Amigas.
I think the titles for "Three Men and a Baby" were done on an Amiga.
Babylon 5 and Seaquest DSV used the
Amiga-powered Video Toaster extensively.
Babylon 5 used hopped-up Amiga 2000s w/68040s and Toasters and
Lightwave for their first season, but I think they switched the
rendering platform to Lightwave on Pentium-class machines for the
remainder of the show. Don't know if they continued to use Toasters
for laying down the rendered images to tape or not.
It was still cool to see Amiga output in a serious commercial venue, though.
-ethan
10:19 p.m.
I heard they used Amiga 4000's... or is that what you meant with "hopped-up
A2000's"??
I was a big fan of Babylon 5 in the early days (I liked Ivanova (Claudia Christian)), but
hardly watched any episodes of the last 2 seasons.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
Babylon 5 used hopped-up Amiga 2000s w/68040s and Toasters and
Lightwave for their first season, but I think they switched the
rendering platform to Lightwave on Pentium-class machines for the
remainder of the show. Don't know if they continued to use Toasters
for laying down the rendered images to tape or not.
It was still cool to see Amiga output in a serious commercial venue, though.
-ethan
16 May
16 May
3:37 a.m.
On 5/15/07, Andrew Burton <aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I heard they used Amiga 4000's... or is that what you meant with "hopped-up
A2000's"??
No, I meant hopped-up A2000s, as in A2000 chassis with 68040 boards...
ECS, not AGA chipset (not that the graphics mattered for rendering)...
it was a cost thing... if I have the story right, the issue was that
they needed an Amiga platform to use their Lightwave models, etc., but
didn't care about anything but CPU speed and CPU-to-mem speed. That's
where all the time went.
They might have upgraded to A4000s in the final push with real Amiga
hardware, but I am reasonably certain that a couple dozen heavily
loaded A2000s were the original renderfarm.
I was a big fan of Babylon 5 in the early days (I
liked Ivanova (Claudia Christian)), but hardly watched any episodes of the last 2 seasons.
I watched them all, but I agree that the last season just didn't
compare to the earlier stuff.
I am looking forward to seeing what they put out this July - yes, the
show is still in production (they just wrapped a few months ago). The
latest bit was largely shot on a green stage with virtual sets -
nothing like the old sets (which I visited in 1996).
-ethan
17 May
17 May
9:29 a.m.
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 23:19 +0100, Andrew Burton wrote:
I heard they used Amiga 4000's... or is that what
you meant
with "hopped-up A2000's"??
I was a big fan of Babylon 5 in the early days (I liked Ivanova
(Claudia Christian)), . . .
Oh, I see what you mean... Yikes.
Peace,
Warren E. Wolfe
wizard at voyager.net
1:44 p.m.
O shut up w/Claudia Christian LOL LOL.
look what was included in the auction:
GSX-86 V1.0 Bin rx50 (1 diskette) - a library of
graphics primitives, no? I have *this* for my APC III
but never mussed with it.
Optimizing C86 C Compiler v2.20J (3 diskettes) - ooh
nice, no?
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15 May
15 May
5:07 p.m.
On 15/5/07 00:49, "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Certainly is, I just had to make up a D23 to flying R/G/B/Sync cables and
the VR241 makes a great Amiga monitor.
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Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
Oi one option
worse then the other LOL. I'm not even
aware of what freqs the 'bow's screens operate at, nor
the Amigas. I guess they've got to be close though ;)
THe 'Bow is pretty much standard TV rates. I can't remember if it only
does the US rates (15.570kHz horizontal, 60Hz vertical) or whether it
also does the European rates (15.625kHz horizontal, 50Hz vertical). The
hardware should be capable of both, BTW.
Given that the Amiga, at least in Europe, had applications in amateur
video productions, I assume its output is at standard TV rates too. 
5:39 p.m.
anyone else on here ever do the potentiometer trick with a VR-241?
hook up a rainbow (without graphics board) to a VR-241 and then hook
potentiometers to the spare RGB connectors so you could have a monochrome
monitor of any color one wanted?
5:58 p.m.
Adrian Graham wrote:
On 15/5/07 00:49, "Tony Duell" <ard at
p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Certainly is, I just had to make up a D23 to flying R/G/B/Sync cables and
the VR241 makes a great Amiga monitor.
Ooooh, ooooh, oooh!
Pinouts, please?
Doc
Oi one
option worse then the other LOL. I'm not even
aware of what freqs the 'bow's screens operate at, nor
the Amigas. I guess they've got to be close though ;)
THe 'Bow is pretty
much standard TV rates. I can't remember if it only
does the US rates (15.570kHz horizontal, 60Hz vertical) or whether it
also does the European rates (15.625kHz horizontal, 50Hz vertical). The
hardware should be capable of both, BTW.
Given that the Amiga, at least in Europe, had applications in amateur
video productions, I assume its output is at standard TV rates too.
7:10 p.m.
On 15/5/07 18:58, "Doc Shipley" <doc at mdrconsult.com> wrote:
Ooooh, ooooh, oooh!
Pinouts, please?
Certainly, once I find it! I think it's still at my northern location,
though all of that stuff is coming here sooner rather than later......
--
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Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
Given that the Amiga, at least in Europe, had
applications in amateur
video productions, I assume its output is at standard TV rates too.
Certainly is, I just had to make up a D23 to flying R/G/B/Sync cables and
the VR241 makes a great Amiga monitor. 
15 May
15 May
1:12 a.m.
I have a few VR241's and some VR201's along with a bunch of DECMate and
Rainbow parts. I'll try to look for a color board later this week.
Paul Anderson
On 5/14/07, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Rainbow-100-pc_
W0QQitemZ180115684124QQihZ008QQcategory
Z4193QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
nicely equipped. In Canaduh LOL LOL
I am still looking for the color card and a monitor.
Canada is too far for me to ship.
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