At 07:15 PM 1/15/99 +1, you wrote: [...] Well... There are advertising collectibles, and I'm sure they go after computer stuff too (the ones that go for newer stuff.) My brother (the ElderPutz) collects such things (one of his hobbies is going to conventions/trade shows to get all the freebies) and after I got into the business decided he wanted to be too (not being good at anything else either) so he fancies himself a techie and thus has a lot of high-tech ad stuff. He's now a tech writer and has finally been able to hold down a job for more than 18months. Anyway, if you want to, you can contact the jerk at <psinasohn(a)siebel.com>om>. (If it sounds like I don't like him, a big part of the reason is that he's decided that Oakland is too far away from San Francisco for him to visit his dad. For referenec, The VCF in Santa Clara is three times as far away a chance to meet my dad -- not the most spry fellow, but a nice guy.)) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/