the issue i have is that i dont happen to have a 2.5" external case to use for it. also the other thing is drivers not fitting on a floppy. i know i have a zip 100 drive but iomega was aquired by lenovo and they killed off the driver archive for it. the other thing is that i would have to find a usb driver for windows 95 for my toughbook to run the zip drive -----Original Message----- From: Chris Osborn <fozztexx at fozztexx.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 7:50 pm Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Derrick Meury <rmx44 at aim.com> wrote: an older os on it but alas i dont have a cd rom or dvd rom for it cause the mk1 and mk2 revision shipped with a floppy drive for the drive bay and the mk3 and mk4 shipped with a cd rom or dvd rom. i have been looking for windows 95 on floppy but all the copies i find on torrent sites arent the full os or that you cant even boot from the img files after making the floppy disks with raw write. would anyone out there have 95 on floppy and or know a way to get drivers on a floppy disk rather then having to get the error of not enough room. The way I always did it was to put the entire copy of the CD on the hard drive and install from there. You could delete it after, but it was better to keep it since Win95/98 are always asking for the CD anyway. To get the entire CD on the HD you could pull the HD and hook it to another computer. Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com

i didn come across a site that is for toughbook drivers but all the divers are an installer type driver an not the drivers themself so i couldnt even get the drivers on the floppy. maybe someone has ideas or has 95 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Osborn <fozztexx at fozztexx.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 8:30 pm Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Derrick Meury <rmx44 at aim.com> wrote: it. also the other thing is drivers not fitting on a floppy. i know i have a zip 100 drive but iomega was aquired by lenovo and they killed off the driver archive for it. the other thing is that i would have to find a usb driver for windows 95 for my toughbook to run the zip drive No other more modern laptops you could swap the drive into? Then you could boot the laptop off a live CD and copy the Win95 from a flash drive, an external drive, or over the network. I recently had to get drivers for an old Kingston card and was able to get them Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com

i wouldnt want a virus version of it. also i would be looking for the 29 or 30 or so floppy version including the usb driver -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 8:17 pm Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy ive got somewhere in my stuff a copy on floppy thats infected with your computer is stoned virus On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Chris Osborn <fozztexx at fozztexx.com> wrote:

well the laptop i know came with windows 95 from the factory cause it has a slightly faded oem 95 serial but when i got it i got it with nothing but the laptop, a pcmcia ethernet card, and a floppy drive in it removeable for a cd rom or dvd rom which i dont have and the power brick. the original 5gb hd has windows 98 on it but since i dont have a cd rom i cant install drivers to it at all and i have bigger hard drives but i cant install an os to them without a cd rom so i opted to try to find 95 on floppy the laptop is a panasonic toughbook cf-27 mk2 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> To: Discussion: Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 11:12 pm Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy The USB support came only in OSR 2 and I wonder if by that time floppy versions had gone... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253756 Actually looking at the above OSR 2 was only on Dave G4UGM On 5 Aug 2014 05:03, "Derrick Meury" <rmx44 at aim.com> wrote:

i do have a windows 95 compatable wireless card that is a netgear ma401 which i know works in 95 but the issue i have is all finding the os and then trying to get the drivers onto floppies and getting the os to take cause i tried to do it from a floppy and bamn nothing no driver detected on the floppy drive cause all the extractor for the installer did was put some files on the floppy but not the ones needed to install the driver or the .exe installer so yea. i would rather just keep swapping floppies and such rather then do things with ways i dont have means to do -----Original Message----- From: Dave G4UGM <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> To: 'Discussion: Posts' <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Tue, Aug 5, 2014 12:11 am Subject: RE: windows 95 floppy Sorry hit the send on the phone by accident?. Finally found this site:- http://www.toughbookdrivers.com/drivers/cf-27/index.php?dir=CF-27%20MK2/ which has the USB drivers for Windows/95 B which I believe is the OSR2 release mentioned below. So given that OSR2 was for OEM only I don?t believe it was ever issued on floppy. I guess you could create a multidisc ZIP archive and then restore that to the hard drive, or there were some versions of GHOST that would talk to USB disks, one of those might work with a USB CD drive. (note I may have a CD of OSR2 somewhere on MSDN disks but I haven?t seen the MSDN disks for ages?) If you can get DOS drivers for the network card try making a DOS boot disk with networking support, you should only need the network drivers for that. There are plenty of sites with info on doing that. The disks still seem to be on the Microsoft FTP site.. ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/Clients/ and see README.NOW file?.. or get a TCPIP program which will work over a serial link and FTP such as the KA9Q package:- http://www.ka9q.net/code/ka9qnos/ (there are other sites with packages, look for DOS TCP/IP on the Vintage Computing Forums?) Any way I note from the above link there is a ToughBook help forum here:- http://forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic/ so might be worth searching that. Dave G4UGM From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.g4ugm at gmail.com] Sent: 05 August 2014 07:05 To: Discussion: Posts Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy The USB support came only in OSR 2 and I wonder if by that time floppy versions had gone... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253756 Actually looking at the above OSR 2 was only on Dave G4UGM On 5 Aug 2014 05:03, "Derrick Meury" <rmx44 at aim.com <mailto:rmx44 at aim.com> > wrote: i wouldnt want a virus version of it. also i would be looking for the 29 or 30 or so floppy version including the usb driver -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com <mailto:tdk.knight at gmail.com> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Sent: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 8:17 pm Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy ive got somewhere in my stuff a copy on floppy thats infected with your computer is stoned virus On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Chris Osborn <fozztexx at fozztexx.com <mailto:fozztexx at fozztexx.com> > wrote:

eh i am still wanting to find the factory microsoft made 28 or 29 or 30 floppy immages of the os rather then do things in ways that is a pain in the ass for me to do i want to just do things easily copy floppy immages or plop in floppies change when needed done. the other thing is that i dont have any optical drives for this one and i have found that the price of the optical drive for this thing costs 45 to almost 200 depending on where u get one from otherwise i am stuck with the floppy drive -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Tue, Aug 5, 2014 12:49 am Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy 1. Get Win95 CD-ROM. preferably the Panasonic one for that machine. 2. On SOME OTHER computer, copy the I386 directory of the CD to floppies. You may need to use a Zip program or a backup program, instead of COPY, if any of the files are larger than the floppy. 3. On the Psnasonic, make an I386 subdirectory. 4. Copy the floppies into that subdirectory. 5. Install Win95 from that directory. IFF you have the right disc in step 1, THAT is how you instsll WIN95 without a CD-ROM drive on the destination machine. There are some alternatives, such as "network install". NOTE: WIN98 SR2 is generally preferable to WIN95. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com

On 5 August 2014 10:30, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: What Fred said. Stop ignoring the advice that more knowledgeable people are offering you. Pull the HD, connect it to another PC using a $5 external USB cable such as this, copy the WIN95 directory across. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=shop&q=usb+2.5+pata+drive+c… Or use Laplink and a nullmodem cable, but it will take hours. Boot Toughbook from floppy from www.bootdisk.com, run Laplink or Interlink, copy files from host PC. That's how I got Windows 95B onto my Thinkpad 700C "Butterfly"... but that was about 17 years ago, when I didn't have the option of doing it in a few min with USB. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R)

On 5 August 2014 14:15, Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> wrote: I'm sure that you can, but it's a hugely slow, inefficient and long-winded way to do something quite simple. As I said, Derrick could just Laplink the files across rather than remove the HD & use a cheap simple USB cable, but either way, it's *far* faster to install from disk to disk, and the .CAB files are then there in future so that Windows Setup can add/remove features without needing the disks. Getting the USB cable would be cheaper than that many diskettes, I suspect. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R)

i know this old laptop has a parallel port. i did check out trying to find a cd rom for the unit the original panasonic one and some places sell it for bout 40 to 200 or so. i have thought of using a parallel optical drive but i dont have one on hand sadly. maybe u might chuck -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> To: ""General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk" <General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts &lt;cctalk&quot;(a)classiccmp.org Sent: Tue, Aug 5, 2014 9:11 am Subject: Re: windows 95 floppy On 08/05/2014 01:30 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: I keep a couple of parallel-to-SCSI adapters around and a SCSI CDROM drive for such an occasion. Works just fine. I wonder if a parallel-to-IDE adapter would also work. The only floppy used is a MSDOS boot floppy with the appropriate drivers. Not blindingly fast, but not needful of endless disk swapping. I suspect a similar setup could be done using Interlink over a serial port, but I've never tried. --Chuck

If you want USB support then you need WIN95B or OSR2 which was never made available on floppy. On 5 August 2014 09:03, Derrick Meury <rmx44 at aim.com> wrote: