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New subject: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
Did anyone catch that show the other night, I Tivo'd it, and it was kinda cool hearing
from the founders, nothing really new was mentioned or covered, they did really razz Bill
Gates about his whiny letter to the Homebrew Club about them pirating MS Basic and such.
Curt]]
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New subject: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Curt Vendel wrote:
Did anyone catch that show the other night, I
Tivo'd it, and it was
kinda cool hearing from the founders, nothing really new was mentioned
or covered, they did really razz Bill Gates about his whiny letter to
the Homebrew Club about them pirating MS Basic and such.
I caught the first and last 5 minutes of it.
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New subject: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
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Curt Vendel <curt(a)atarimuseum.com> wrote:
Did anyone catch that show the other night, I
Tivo'd it, and it was kinda
cool hearing from the founders, nothing really new was mentioned or
covered, they did really razz Bill Gates about his whiny letter to the
Homebrew Club about them pirating MS Basic and such.
Can someone MPEG or DivX the
show? If it's less than 200MB, I can provide the
hosting :)
Incidentally, I did contact Sky (the UK satellite TV co., aka BskyB) not long
ago regarding TechTV. Their response consisted of two words - "No" and
"chance". *sigh*.
Later.
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5:52 p.m.
New subject: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
Philip Pemberton wrote:
Can someone MPEG or DivX the show? If it's less
than 200MB, I can provide the
hosting :)
Incidentally, I did contact Sky (the UK satellite TV co., aka BskyB) not long
ago regarding TechTV. Their response consisted of two words - "No" and
"chance". *sigh*.
Later.
hmm we are going to be getting Tech TV soon on FOXTEL (australian pay
tv) they are just doing the move over to digital..
And am realy looking forward to the Screensavers show.
Benjamin
6:25 p.m.
New subject: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
On 21 Jan 2004, at 15:52, Benjamin Gardiner wrote:
hmm we
are going to be getting Tech TV soon on FOXTEL (australian pay
tv) they are just doing the move over to digital..
Well, they've made the announcement, let's wait to see when we can
actually subscribe to the new digital service and how it's going to be
delivered (cable, satellite, fibre?).
The real reason for posting a followup is to ask if someone can confirm
that this e-mail is in plain text please? I've just upgraded? from
Evolution to mail.app on my OSX Laptop and I think I've set it up
correctly :-).
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au
Melbourne | "If soccer was meant to be played in the
Australia | air, the sky would be painted green"
7:07 p.m.
New subject: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
Huw Davies wrote:
Well, they've made the announcement, let's wait to see when we can
actually subscribe to the new digital service and how it's going to be
delivered (cable, satellite, fibre?).
The real reason for posting a followup is to ask if someone can confirm
that this e-mail is in plain text please? I've just upgraded? from
Evolution to mail.app on my OSX Laptop and I think I've set it up
correctly :-).
Well they have hasid the roll out will be over the next 2.5 years, the
sat subscribers are already on digital, but may need a new set top box,
and I do know that the digital will be over the existing cable network
not the analogue system they currently use.
and yes this email was in plain text.
Benjamin
8:27 p.m.
New subject: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
count us in for a dvd save of this for the archives here see address
below...
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
coury house / smecc
5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Gardiner" <cvisors(a)carnagevisors.net>
To: <General Discussion :>; "On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone see TechTV Screensavers - Homebrew Computer Club???
Philip Pemberton wrote:
> Can someone MPEG or DivX the show? If it's less than 200MB, I can
provide
the
> hosting :)
> Incidentally, I did contact Sky (the UK satellite TV co., aka BskyB) not
long
ago regarding
TechTV. Their response consisted of two words - "No" and
"chance". *sigh*.
Later.
hmm we are going to be getting Tech TV soon on FOXTEL (australian pay
tv) they are just doing the move over to digital..
And am realy looking forward to the Screensavers show.
Benjamin
19 Jan
19 Jan
4:43 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Keys
Sent: 19 January 2004 15:07
To: cctalk@classiccmp
Subject: Aquarius II on eBay didn't sell at over $400
Check it out
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2779174663
Never produced? I thought they were.....might not've sold too well because
they were basically the not-very-good Aquarius 1 with some extra ROM/RAM,
BASIC keywords and the proper keyboard. They were nothing to do with Mattel
either 'cos Mattel lost so much money with the Aquarius 1 they begged
Radofin (the manufacturer) to take the whole lot back, lock stock and barrel
and write Mattel out of the contract.
This was after only 3 or 4 months :)
Hmm. Muchos googling tells me they really weren't sold.....no wonder I've
never seen one at a car boot sale!
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6:07 a.m.
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Keys wrote:
For fairly good reason.
As lame as that computer was, folks like me who first learned to program
on them are fanatics about it. If I had the money last year when a
complete Aquarius II system with the exceedingly rare disk drive, 4-color
printer and other goodies sold for over $500 (I think it might have been
as high as $700) I would have dropped that.
I'm fairly sure there are less than 100 Aquarius II computers in
existence. Radofin test marketed them around the world but the product
got canceled before it sold in any sort of numbers.
I have one that I got by way of Australia from a developer there who was
writing a teletext system on it. I never realized that they were actually
sold in stores until I came across the one that sold last year.
In fact, the guy who apparently got the rest of the stuff from that
developer (through a third party) can be found here:
http://members.aol.com/paparotcy/aquarius/protos.html
...including the 1541 disk drive adapter wedge.
The one that just closed on eBay was bought by the seller at a store in
Finland in 1984. So they were sold in stores, but in VERY limited
numbers.
Here's the most recently updated Aquarius FAQ:
http://www.digitpress.com/faq/aquarius.txt
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Aquarius II on eBay didn't sell at over $400
Well I feel better now reading how bad the aquarius bombed (I purchased a
Timex 2068 in 1983 which didn't do to well either but had better specs then
the aquarius). Still have it here somewhere.
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Keys wrote:
For fairly good reason.
As lame as that computer was, folks like me who first learned to program
on them are fanatics about it. If I had the money last year when a
complete Aquarius II system with the exceedingly rare disk drive, 4-color
printer and other goodies sold for over $500 (I think it might have been
as high as $700) I would have dropped that.
I'm fairly sure there are less than 100 Aquarius II computers in
existence. Radofin test marketed them around the world but the product
got canceled before it sold in any sort of numbers.
I have one that I got by way of Australia from a developer there who was
writing a teletext system on it. I never realized that they were actually
sold in stores until I came across the one that sold last year.
In fact, the guy who apparently got the rest of the stuff from that
developer (through a third party) can be found here:
http://members.aol.com/paparotcy/aquarius/protos.html
...including the 1541 disk drive adapter wedge.
The one that just closed on eBay was bought by the seller at a store in
Finland in 1984. So they were sold in stores, but in VERY limited
numbers.
Here's the most recently updated Aquarius FAQ:
http://www.digitpress.com/faq/aquarius.txt
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Teo Zenios wrote:
Well I feel better now reading how bad the aquarius
bombed (I purchased a
Timex 2068 in 1983 which didn't do to well either but had better specs then
the aquarius). Still have it here somewhere.
For what it was it wasn't a bad little machine. Just imagine a computer
marketed by a toy company and that's what this was. The keyboard was a
"chiclet" variety, just barely useable, and the BASIC language was
adequate, barely, especially after taking more than 2K for itself and
leaving you with less than 2K to actually write programs in.
But it did include a full complement of tightly integrated peripherals.
The data recorder, the 40-column thermal printer, the expansion module
that allowed an extra RAM carthridge (required by most games). It also
had a modem and some terminal software.
I was able to write games for it (crappy ones but games nonetheless) and
also wrote a database program to manage my comic book collection (stored
on cassette).
And, I learned how to program on it.
It was a serious attempt at making a user friendly computer system. If it
wasn't so under-powered and limited it might have been passable.
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-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Vintage Computer
Festival
Sent: 19 January 2004 18:13
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Aquarius II on eBay didn't sell at over $400
For what it was it wasn't a bad little machine. Just imagine a computer
marketed by a toy company and that's what this was. The keyboard was a
"chiclet" variety, just barely useable, and the BASIC language was
adequate, barely, especially after taking more than 2K for itself and
leaving you with less than 2K to actually write programs in.
Imagine how much memory you'd have had left if they'd left the FOR...NEXT
loop in the BASIC interpreter! The aquarius was perhaps unfairly labelled as
'the computer for the 70s' :)
cheers
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8:56 a.m.
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Witchy wrote:
Imagine how much memory you'd have had left if
they'd left the
FOR...NEXT loop in the BASIC interpreter! The aquarius was perhaps
unfairly labelled as 'the computer for the 70s' :)
What? I don't remember not having FOR/NEXT. I'll have to check my
manual.
PS. Fix your mailer! Yours are the only messages that default to reply to
you and the list (boo!)
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-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Vintage Computer
Festival
Sent: 19 January 2004 19:57
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Aquarius II on eBay didn't sell at over $400
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Witchy wrote:
That's according to the review I've got here and also from several Aquarius
based websites. Maybe they fixed it, but I doubt that they'd have had time
in the 3 months they were selling it :)
Imagine how much memory you'd have had left
if they'd left the
FOR...NEXT loop in the BASIC interpreter! The aquarius was perhaps
unfairly labelled as 'the computer for the 70s' :)
What? I don't remember not having FOR/NEXT. I'll have to check my
manual. PS. Fix your mailer! Yours are the only messages that
default to reply to
you and the list (boo!)
Nothing to do with me I don't think - I'm on bog-standard outlook 2000 here
and haven't changed settings for years. It started happening when Jay
upgraded the mailman software on the server and the reply addresses became
things like 'cctalk-bounces' and the like. None of the other lists I'm part
of do that......
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11:08 a.m.
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Witchy wrote:
Well, yours are the only messages where I have this problem (there is one
other person but I forget who that is).
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PS. Fix your
mailer! Yours are the only messages that default to reply to
you and the list (boo!)
Nothing to do with me I don't think - I'm on bog-standard outlook 2000 here
and haven't changed settings for years. It started happening when Jay
upgraded the mailman software on the server and the reply addresses became
things like 'cctalk-bounces' and the like. None of the other lists I'm part
of do that......
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