1 Jul
1999
1 Jul
'99
5:40 p.m.
Greetings all,
I am trying to see if I can get an IBM 5150 working still. I was
wondering if anyone out there can tell me:
1. If the IBM 5150 XT computer came with documentation
2. Is an IBM monitor, model # 5153 (Personal Computer Color Display) is
compatible with an IBM 5150 XT?
3. What kind of monitor (graphics array) is an IBM 5153. I would guess
EGA, but don't know.
If anyone can help me out I sure would appreciate it.
Robert
1 Jul
1 Jul
6:50 p.m.
PATTON2R(a)aol.com wrote:
Greetings all,
I am trying to see if I can get an IBM 5150 working still. I was
wondering if anyone out there can tell me:
1. If the IBM 5150 XT computer came with documentation
Yes, the Guide To Operations Personal Computer XT and I believe there were a
couple of other small manuals included.
2. Is an IBM monitor, model # 5153 (Personal
Computer Color Display) is
compatible with an IBM 5150 XT?
3. What kind of monitor (graphics array) is an IBM 5153. I would guess
EGA, but don't know.
The Personal Computer Color display is a CGA monitor. Talking about it being
compatible with the PC is not a valid question since it is the controller
that determines what monitor can be used. The switch settings on the
motherboard of both the PC and XT are settable for mono, CGA, and EGA
adapter cards. Schematics for the 5150 and peripherals were available in the
IIRC Technical Reference Manual and the Options and Adapters Manuals.
6:53 p.m.
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 PATTON2R(a)aol.com wrote:
Greetings all,
I am trying to see if I can get an IBM 5150 working still. I was
wondering if anyone out there can tell me:
1. If the IBM 5150 XT computer came with documentation
The XT is NOT a 5150. That's like a VW Karmann Ghia Bug. Which is it?
5150 is _PC_. You can recognize it by the FIVE expansion slots.
5160 is _XT_. You can recognize it by the EIGHT expansion slots.
There are numerous other less visible differences.
Both came with "Guide to operations", and "BASIC" in canvas sleeved
binders. Other manuals, such as "Technical Reference Manual" were
available separately.
2. Is an IBM monitor, model # 5153 (Personal
Computer Color Display) is
compatible with an IBM 5150 XT?
3. What kind of monitor (graphics array) is an IBM 5153. I would guess
EGA, but don't know.
CGA. If the computer has a CGA video board, then it'll be fine.
But if you plug it into an MDA board, you can damage it.
2 Jul
2 Jul
12:59 p.m.
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5 Jul
5 Jul
6:19 a.m.
On 2 Jul 99 at 22:59, Tony Duell wrote:
The MDA monitor is the really 'fragile' one. As it has no horizontal
oscillator, the Hsync pin directly drives the HOT. And if you drive it
off-frequency, it will fail.
I thought the CGA monitor was a lot harder to damage. If you plug it into
an MDA card, it won't work, but I didn't think it did damage.
-tony
Most of the Hercules and Simca docs had a warning about using them when
connected to a CGA card. I can't remember now the specifics.
You said in an earlier post something to the effect that the 5150 Bios
supports VGA. Obviously it requires a VGA card (8 bit ?) but I thought only the
XT would support VGA. I have a highly modified 5150 with an Intel Inboard
386 card that I had become resigned to not having VGA abilities. I've
acquired an 8bit VGA card that I was going to use on my XT(5160) since I
had been told the PC wouldn't work with it.
Could you elaborate. Since VGA at that point of time was only an idea not yet
close to implementation.Was it a backward compatibility thing built into VGA?
I'm really into the idea of blowing the socks off the bleeding-edge Dozers with
this machine, I have a pristine model for collection purposes.(boring)
ciao larry
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3. What kind of monitor (graphics array) is an IBM
5153. I would guess
EGA, but don't know.
CGA. If the computer has a CGA video board, then it'll be fine.
But if you plug it into an MDA board, you can damage it.
12:27 p.m.
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2 Jul
2 Jul
5 a.m.
At 10:40 PM 7/1/99 EDT, you wrote:
Greetings all,
I am trying to see if I can get an IBM 5150 working still. I was
wondering if anyone out there can tell me:
1. If the IBM 5150 XT computer came with documentation
Yes, They came with a DOS manual, an Exploring the IBM PC manual and a
bunch of loose leaf inserts for each option. I'm not certain but I think
their was a hardware manual of some sort that the inserts went into. I
don't have that manual but I still have many of the inserts. I have one in
front of me, it's titled "Option Instructions Color/Graphic Monitor
Adapter". This one is for the CGA card. Here is a list of the inserts that
I know of: Switch Setting Charts, IBM Monochrome Display, IBM Color
Display, IBM Monochrome Display and Printer Adapter, Color/Graphics Monitor
Adapter, IBM Printers, Printer Adapter, 5 1/4" Diskette Drive, 10 Megabyte
Fixed Disk Drive, 10 Megabyte Fixed Disk Drive Adapter, 64 KB Memory Module
Kit, 64/256KB Memory Expansion, IBM Math Coprocessor, Game Control Adapter,
Prototype Card, IBM Personal Computer Expansion Unit,
AsynchronousCommunications Adapter, Binary Synchronous Communications
Adapter, Synchronous Data Link Control (SDLC) Communications Adapter, IBM
Cummunications Adapter.
2. Is an IBM monitor, model # 5153 (Personal
Computer Color Display) is
compatible with an IBM 5150 XT?
Yes, if you have the CGA card installed.
3. What kind of monitor (graphics array) is an IBM
5153. I would guess
EGA, but don't know.
Nope it's CGA. The EGA ones say "Enhanced Color Graphics" or something
close to that.
Joe
12:45 p.m.
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