3 May
2019
3 May
'19
9:54 p.m.
Hi,
I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old
software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate
to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or
some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or
put them on a thumb drive.
Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for
converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically
handles data CD-ROMs.
Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often
check this list.
Thanks,
jp
3 May
3 May
10:08 p.m.
If you want to do it yourself,
Mac: https://www.provideocoalition.com/howto_create_dvd_iso_from_files_mac/
Windows: http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/tutorials/create/
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On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 12:53 AM J. Peterson via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old
software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate
to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or
some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or
put them on a thumb drive.
Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for
converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically
handles data CD-ROMs.
Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often
check this list.
Thanks,
jp
11:22 p.m.
Hi,
I used to do things like that for a living (www.farumdata.dk), but
mainly from magnetic media.
Nico
J. Peterson via cctech skrev den 2019-05-04 06:54:
Hi,
I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old
software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate
to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or
some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or put
them on a thumb drive.
Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for
converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically
handles data CD-ROMs.
Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often
check this list.
Thanks,
jp
4 May
4 May
7:15 a.m.
On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, backup
files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody read each of
these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make them
downloadable or put them on a thumb drive.
Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for converting audio
CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles data CD-ROMs.
Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check this list.
Thanks,
jp
I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is
make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the
"dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso.
paul
8:04 a.m.
Hi Paul,
So I would expect all you need to do is make an image
copy of the disk.
I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for
the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file,
load the next CD, etc.
I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that
3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive
containing all the ISO files.
Thanks,
jp
On May 4,
2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files
(old software,
backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a
reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert
them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make
them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive.
Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services
for converting
audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that
specifically handles data CD-ROMs.
Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't
often check
this list.
Thanks,
jp
I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect
all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix
systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy
/dev/whatever to myfile.iso.
paul 
5 May
5 May
9:40 a.m.
> So I would expect all you need to do is make an
image copy of the disk.
On Sat, 4 May 2019, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote:
I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the
CD, waiting for the
computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next
CD, etc.
I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that 3-4
dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all the
ISO files.
3-4 dozen??!?
That does not sound amenable to find a service to send them to!
That sounds like "hire the neighbor's kid".
College kids will do anything for minimum wage.
While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is
on the labels into a spreadsheet program for making a database.
10:28 a.m.
On Sun, May 5, 2019, 10:41 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org wrote:
In the past, when I needed to read 300 floppies, I wrote a script to read
to a file. It printed a number and I made a tiny label with that number and
put it on the diskette. Old then photograph the interesting ones. The
script tossed me into an editor and I transcribed the label. The script
also ran tools to try to list the dos or cpm files, saving the results. I
had to hit return to start the next one. So I had two piles of diskettes
and I'd transfer them one to the other after reading. I'd change them
between meetings or when I thought about it. It took weeks to get through
the 300, but there was little time that wasn't otherwise wasted devoted to
this....
Warner
> So I would
expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk.
On Sat, 4 May 2019, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote:
I'm trying to avoid the actual task of
loading the CD, waiting for the
computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the
next
CD, etc.
I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that
3-4
dozen times, and send the disks backs with a
thumb drive containing all
the
ISO files.
3-4 dozen??!?
That does not sound amenable to find a service to send them to!
That sounds like "hire the neighbor's kid".
College kids will do anything for minimum wage.
While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is
on the labels into a spreadsheet program for making a database.
10:39 a.m.
On 5/5/19 9:40 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in
whatever metadata is on the labels
How much time will it take for s/he/it to learn how to CORRECTLY transcribe a label?
I gave up and just take a picture of any media I'm recovering, since the label itself
has provenance value. For example it is important to know if the label is original or
a hand-written copy.
10:55 a.m.
> While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type
in whatever metadata
> is on the labels
On Sun, 5 May 2019, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
How much time will it take for s/he/it to learn how to
CORRECTLY transcribe a label?
I gave up and just take a picture of any media I'm recovering, since the label
itself
has provenance value. For example it is important to know if the label is original or
a hand-written copy.
. . . and, I certainly would not "send them off for somebody else to do",
without making those records of what I was sending.
Since that needs to be done, anyway,
it seems to ME to be more work to send out 3-4 dozen, than to do them
in-house.
4 May
4 May
8:04 a.m.
Hi Paul,
So I would expect all you need to do is make an image
copy of the disk.
I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for
the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file,
load the next CD, etc.
I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that
3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive
containing all the ISO files.
Thanks,
jp
On May 4,
2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files
(old software,
backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a
reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert
them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make
them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive.
Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services
for converting
audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that
specifically handles data CD-ROMs.
Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't
often check
this list.
Thanks,
jp
I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect
all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix
systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy
/dev/whatever to myfile.iso.
paul 
5 May
5 May
3:30 a.m.
Paul,
I assumed you wanted some one else to do the work!
I suspect that if these are commercial CDs you will run into issues with
Copyright.
Commercial services that do Photos to CD etc. will generally want to be
assured that you own the copyright of the material they are copying.
If you turn up with a pile of commercial CDs that say "COPYRIGHT xyz
corperation" or are even commercial CDs they may not be happy.
I did find one company in the UK who offer this service:-
https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/1268
who seem to have the ability to do this in bulk with automated machinery...
Dave
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Subject: Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Hi Paul,
computer
So I would expect all you need to do is make an
image copy of the disk.
I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the
to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file,
load the next CD,
etc.
I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that
3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing
all
the ISO files.
Thanks,
jp
> > On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files
> (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable
> rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO
> files or some other reasonable format, and either make them
> downloadable or put them on a thumb drive.
> >
> > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services
> for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that
> specifically handles data CD-ROMs.
> >
> > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't
> often check this list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > jp
>
>I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all
>you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems
>that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to
>myfile.iso.
>
> paul
6:37 a.m.
On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 11:30:49AM +0100, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
Paul,
I assumed you wanted some one else to do the work!
I suspect that if these are commercial CDs you will run into issues with
Copyright.
Commercial services that do Photos to CD etc. will generally want to be
assured that you own the copyright of the material they are copying.
If you turn up with a pile of commercial CDs that say "COPYRIGHT xyz
corperation" or are even commercial CDs they may not be happy.
This.
And if the content is of any importance, I would rather do the job
with my own hand and not trust that some folks I had not seen would do
it without scratching and perhaps making a copy for themselves. You
know, just in case CDs dissapear somewhere in postal transit. And
maybe store it in the cloud because cheaper.
JP, you did not mentioned the number. "Few dozens", so let's assume
60. This thread lasts for three days and will not stop so soon. The
number of CDs to scan per day is about twenty today - and is going to
drop. Scanning ten per day, starting on May the 3rd, you would
probably be done with it before this thread comes to a halt.
Just MHO.
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Tomasz Rola
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** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... **
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4 May
4 May
11:38 a.m.
On 5/4/2019 8:15 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you
need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's
trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso.
paul
Window users rejoice (until the next verion breaks something).
http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
1:36 p.m.
Paul,
VAX CD-ROMS generally are not ISO. ISO implies the ISO9660 file system, but many VAX CD
ROMS are in native VMS Files-11 format.
Some Windows utilities don't handle these so you need third party software to create
an image of these CD's.
Generally it has a .iso extension but as the content is not ISO9660 you can't mount it
on Windows or Linux.
There a couple of utilities that will convert arbitrary files to image files.
I tend to use CD Burner XP
https://cdburnerxp.se/en/download
but you need to click "More download options" and use the "without install
core" versions....
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of ben via cctalk
Sent: 04 May 2019 19:39
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 5/4/2019 8:15 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you
need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial,
just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso.
paul
Window users rejoice (until the next verion breaks something).
http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
3:35 p.m.
On 04/05/2019 21:36, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
Paul,
VAX CD-ROMS generally are not ISO. ISO implies the ISO9660 file system, but many VAX CD
ROMS are in native VMS Files-11 format.
Some Windows utilities don't handle these so you need third party software to create
an image of these CD's.
Generally it has a .iso extension but as the content is not ISO9660 you can't mount
it on Windows or Linux.
There a couple of utilities that will convert arbitrary files to image files.
I tend to use CD Burner XP
https://cdburnerxp.se/en/download
but you need to click "More download options" and use the "without install
core" versions....
Dave
VMS CDs are indeed in ODS-2 format. Windows certainly won't mount them
but many of the imaging utilities I used to
use under windows would happily produce a valid image that could then be
burnt to CD-R and used in a VAX (so I'm
fairly sure they did a proper, correct image copy). Nero and CDburnerXP
come to mind.
FWIW it is possible to produce a CD that can be mounted as ISO9660 on
(say) Windows but also presents the same data
as an ODS-2 filesystem on VAX (or Alpha). I even built one or two such
images back in the day.
Antonio
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antonio at acarlini.com
5 May
5 May
6:14 a.m.
On 04/05/2019 21:36, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
Paul,
VAX CD-ROMS generally are not ISO. ISO implies the ISO9660 file system, but many VAX CD
ROMS are in native VMS Files-11 format.
Some Windows utilities don't handle these so you need third party software to create
an image of these CD's.
Generally it has a .iso extension but as the content is not ISO9660 you can't mount
it on Windows or Linux.
Indeed, and the same is true of IRIX install CDs, which have an EFS
filesystem.
--
Pete
Pete Turnbull
4 May
4 May
1:51 p.m.
On 05/04/2019 01:38 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 5/4/2019 8:15 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would
expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the
disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd"
command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso.
Or, better than that, just put it in
just about any computer
and read the files, copy to a directory on hard drive, etc.
The ISO-9660 format was designed to be OS-agnostic, so you
can read the files on any OS.
Jon
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