On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Joe wrote: I guess US companies will have to start dealing with scrap in better ways now. Of course, it does also mean we might have a better chance to grab the better parts and systems before they are scrapped. It also seems that it would be more profitable for companies to sell (or even give away) such old systems to folks that will give them a home (possibly with a signed agreement transferring the responsibility for recycling to the new owner) rather than deal with the scrapping and recycling of it. If China's ban works, the better metals will also quit finding their way out of the US. Most of the *old* systems were made with high grade aluminum and steel. It appears those are some of the materials (as well as lots and lots of plastics and lead...) that are piling up in places like China. The only metals that seem to be of immediate value to the scrappers are gold, silver, and to a limited degree, copper. -Toth