My limited experience with XEBEC has been that the majority of their products were interfaced via SASI rather than by SCSI. Since I've seen and handled a couple of these SIDER boxes, having acquired one for purposes of using the box and PSU, and having sent Rich the drive he's trying to figure out, I know what the cabling arrangements in at least one of them were. The interconnection is done via a DC37 connector at the rear of the rather long, narrow, tall box, to provide for a daisy chain or a terminator plug. The cable seems to utilize all 37 conductors, though it does so in an arrangement different from the way in which the signals are arranged on the 37-to-50 conductor adapters used by IOMEGA in their Bernoulli Box devices. Unfortunately, I've no knowledge of what the Apple][ adapter to this interface looks like, never having seen one myself. I'm convinced at this point that the cables useable with the IOMEGA type of device will work with the SIDER, but I doubt the terminator will work. Bernoulli Boxes were internally terminated, while the SIDER was not. That's easily remedied, however, since an adapter from the 37-pin arrangement to a standard 50-pin SCSI would be easily built. There are numerous versions of a [DB-25]<=>[SCSI 50-conductor] adapter so it's possible that even a 25-pin to 37-pin cable could be used. It will probably have to be made up for this purpose, however. I do not believe that XEBEC made a 25-pin version of this baby. I recently saw an Apple][ board with a 40-conductor ribbon cable connector on it, and that might have been a way of attaching to a DC37, but I didn't think to look more carefully at that board. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Leo Rachor Jr." &lt;george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com&gt; To: &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Xebec Sider for Apple II