On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 05:01:03AM -0400, Bob Vines wrote: No photos, but back in college I built a frame under my loft (i.e. bed was on stilts) to hold RK07 packs, which worked nicely. It was basically a single shelf suspended from the 2x8 frame of the loft, but instead of a flat surface, the "shelf" was just a pair of 2x4s, angled to match the round disk cartridges (which were on edge). The ends (and I think one point in the middle) were suspended in square frames made of 2x4s, with the bottom ones notched to fit the angled 2x4 runners. It did a great job of keeping the disk packs out of trouble. The end view was something like this: +---/ ------ \---+ | / \ | +------------------------+ John Wilson D Bit