15 May
2002
15 May
'02
7:40 a.m.
From: Sellam Ismail
On Wed, 15 May 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote:
way
Well, not really. cctech is moderated, to help block spam, and keep
out the OT messages. it is also sent to cctalk, so everyone can see all the
messages. cctalk is just that. A big room full of conversations that go
anywhere...
cctalk are getting the messages from here, right?
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> Note: As a benefit to those here on the
cctech side of the list who
value
> topical messages, I am only sending these
many referrals I receive
every
month to
cctech.
Ummm, aren't all cctech messages supposed to automatically get sent
to cctalk also? If so, then that 'benefit' wouldn't exactly work they you intend, Sellam...
Err, you're right. This new list is too confusing.
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15 May
15 May
10:15 a.m.
On Wed, 15 May 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote:
Well, not really. cctech is moderated, to help block
spam, and
keep out the OT messages. it is also sent to cctalk, so everyone can see
all the messages. cctalk is just that. A big room full of conversations
that go anywhere...
Wait a second. So if I'm in CCTECH and I post a message, it then goes to
both lists. Fine.
But what if people in CCTALK start replying to it and begin a thread. Do
those messages go back to CCTECH or CCTALK?
Jay, I've CC'd you on this since I think it's a relevant question for you.
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10:32 a.m.
New subject: [CCTALK] [CCTECH] How the lists work (was: TRS-80 Model 1)
I bet Jay is extremely busy with this, so I'll step forward here with my
best guess as to how this all works.
1) cctalk is UNmoderated for subscribers, moderated for non-subscribers
2) cctech is moderated for subscribers, moderated for non-subscribers
3) cctech posts are forwarded (auto-crossposted) to cctalk
Part 3 above has an interesting side-effect. When a cctech subscriber posts
a message, it triggers a moderation alert as it is forwarded over to cctalk,
since the cctech subscriber is not a cctalk subscriber. This can be overcome
in two ways:
1) Subscribe to cctalk. Goto the options page. Disable mail delivery.
2) Wait for Jay to fix it.
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12:42 p.m.
New subject: [CCTALK] [CCTECH] How the lists work (was: TRS-80 Model 1)
Jeff wrote.....
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I bet Jay is extremely busy with this,
Jeff
shows a great gift for understatement. Please lets keep the requests
for changes out of the picture, until I have everything smoothed out. That
will take a few days or so. THEN I can entertain notions of fixing more
"cosmetic" things.
so I'll step forward here with my
best guess as to how this all works.
1) cctalk is UNmoderated for subscribers, moderated for non-subscribers
2) cctech is moderated for subscribers, moderated for non-subscribers
3) cctech posts are forwarded (auto-crossposted) to cctalk
Jeff is absolutely
correct. THANKS Jeff.
Part 3 above has an interesting side-effect. When a
cctech subscriber
posts
a message, it triggers a moderation alert as it is
forwarded over to
cctalk,
since the cctech subscriber is not a cctalk
subscriber. This can be
overcome
in two ways:
Also correct. In due time
folks....
Jay West
16 May
16 May
10:14 a.m.
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12:15 p.m.
New subject: [CCTALK] back [Bracketing] labor (an 'Re:...)
Tony said:
+AD4- Is it just me, or has this list just
+AD4- become rediculously complicated?
I think there are a couple/few bugs to iron
out, nothing bad though. And...
positive value of having a list
- new negative aspects of list
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A value above zero+ACoAKg-
As Chris and others have said, let's give Jay
a chance to metabolize his coffees before
complaining. A few small changes may be
warranted, and I can wait a bit for them.
John A.
+ACoAKg-in other words, thanks Jay
1:53 p.m.
New subject: [CCTALK] RE: [CCTECH] TRS-80 Model 1 List bifurcation
On Thursday 16 May 2002 17:14, you wrote:
Is it just me, or has this list just become
rediculously complicated? I
still don't know where I should be posting anything. And I don't really
care any more. If people miss out on my messages, well that's their
problem I'm afraid.
Sacrifice to the God of political correctness we must.
the bloodstained Left allways jump in your face in radical over reaction
screaming shouting and waving the fake bloody shirt and other such
tactics with the aim to banish any mention of .....
if one dare mention fact or metaphor that is "offensive" to these
primadonnas, they go into mindless mob-mentality groupthink
and erect their hangmans scaffolds, lite the torches and grab the
pitchforks.
this same intolerant mentality will be sitting at the triggers of
machine guns opposite a fresh dug ditch when they finally
get the total state power over you that they seek.
I understand the thinking behind bifurcation of the list,
but this wont quell the foamy mouth shout-down/shoot-down
crowd that lay claim to that manufactured "civil" right
to protection against speach that they find offensive.
Raymond
17 May
17 May
10:16 a.m.
New subject: [CCTALK] RE: [CCTECH] TRS-80 Model 1 List bifurcation
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2:55 a.m.
On Thursday, May 16, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
Tony, my suggestion (to everybody) is to just subscribe, and post to,
CCTALK. It's un-moderated, just as the list was last week.
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On Wed, 15 May 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote:
Is it just me, or has this list just become rediculously complicated? I
still don't know where I should be posting anything. And I don't really
care any more. If people miss out on my messages, well that's their
problem I'm afraid.
This reminds me of what happened to another mailing list I am on. We had
a mild spam problem about 3 years ago, and the list set-up was changed.
It virtually killed the list. Before the changes (but even after the spam
attack) we had perhaps 5-10 messages a day. Now we're lucky to have 2 a
week. Oh well...
-tony Well, not really. cctech is moderated, to help
block spam, and
keep out the OT messages. it is also sent to cctalk, so everyone can see
all the messages. cctalk is just that. A big room full of conversations
that go anywhere...
Wait a second. So if I'm in CCTECH and I post a message, it then goes to
both lists. Fine.
But what if people in CCTALK start replying to it and begin a thread. Do
those messages go back to CCTECH or CCTALK?
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