At 04:50 PM 12/13/98 -0600, you wrote: Dunno about that... I regularly go through the full Portables section, and the "ending today" listings for a couple other categories. Donald Duck, I search for. Portable computers, there are no good keywords. Of course, the really sophisticated bidder simply keeps an eye on what other, known bidders are bidding on... 8^) (And disguises his own activity with lots of Donald Duck bids.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/