7 Feb
2003
7 Feb
'03
3:11 a.m.
All,
is anyone here familiar with installing and operating Info
Servers? I got word that they are pretty much the same as
a stripped-down MV3100, so installing the InfoServer CD on
such a machine (equipped with CD drive) should get us the
desired result...
Pse contact me off-list if you can help, and I'll summarize
here, later.
Thx,
Fred
3 Mar
3 Mar
4:44 a.m.
New subject: DEC InfoServer 150 ?
Hi Fred, Fred here again,
Did u get any further in your search?
I once had the manual to the infoserver 150, but lost it. All I know is
that the pwd is ESS.
I have a 150. yes the cpu is ka-42-a, so is it a VS3100, or an MV3100
??? Because it should load netbsd according to netbsd vax. Mine has
disks and floppies and cd. It has a b/w framebuffer on it.
Let me know whatever dope u have on the infoserver so I can get mine
running and shove it on my homenetwork. I have plenty experience with vs
3100 and actually some for sale.
fred
-----------------------
is anyone here familiar with installing and operating Info
Servers? I got word that they are pretty much the same as
a stripped-down MV3100, so installing the InfoServer CD on
such a machine (equipped with CD drive) should get us the
desired result...
Pse contact me off-list if you can help, and I'll summarize
here, later.
Thx,
Fred
5:55 a.m.
New subject: DEC InfoServer 150 ?
I have a 150. yes the cpu is ka-42-a, so is it a
VS3100, or an MV3100
??? Because it should load netbsd according to netbsd vax. Mine has
disks and floppies and cd. It has a b/w framebuffer on it.
I've tried IS150 ROMs in a MV3100 and VS3100 and it
didn't work.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
11 Mar
11 Mar
1:52 p.m.
Specifically: Does anybody have the pinout to the db25 (not a db 15!)
plug of the infoserver 150 model SEACD - AX - A01 in the back? The
caption above the plug shows a square with an up-arrow in it. Monitor?
Combo kbd/mouse/monitor?
And the S1 switch nearby that switches regular vs3100's between serial
and terminal console mode.
Does that mean it has a built-in framebuffer for at least b/w like all
vs3100's and can serve as a console?
There are three mmj plugs in the back, named 1,2 and 3 with horiz arrows
to left and right: why three serial consoles? All simultaneous?
And two scsi terminators. Two scsi buses?
So where does the kbd go???
Then it has this bulging cover that hides the MAC address of the serial
interface.
Otherwise the box looks just like a vs3100 to me, so it should run
netbsd1.6. BTW for those who play with it: Ping works on a vs3100m38,
although it does not return the pkt count to console, so it looks
broken....hate dead dinosaurs! Try telnet instead and bingo!
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Fred N. van Kempen
Sent: Friday, 07 February, 2003 12.09
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: DEC InfoServer ?
All,
is anyone here familiar with installing and operating Info
Servers? I got word that they are pretty much the same as
a stripped-down MV3100, so installing the InfoServer CD on
such a machine (equipped with CD drive) should get us the
desired result...
Pse contact me off-list if you can help, and I'll summarize
here, later.
Thx,
Fred
12 Mar
12 Mar
2:04 a.m.
Fred deBros wrote:
Specifically: Does anybody have the pinout to the db25
(not a db 15!)
plug of the infoserver 150 model SEACD - AX - A01 in the back? The
Probably a printer port. RS-232 Serial port. (At least if it is like a
regular uVax3100). Symbol looks like a box with a triangle in it
with a couple of arrows on the bottom.
caption above the plug shows a square with an up-arrow
in it. Monitor?
Combo kbd/mouse/monitor?
And the S1 switch nearby that switches regular vs3100's between serial
and terminal console mode.
Not sure off the top of my head what that switch does, but it is there
on all 3100/10's.
Does that mean it has a built-in framebuffer for at
least b/w like all
vs3100's and can serve as a console?
Not all 3100's had video. I doubt that this one does either.
Sounds more like a standard 3100/10.
There are three mmj plugs in the back, named 1,2 and 3
with horiz arrows
to left and right: why three serial consoles? All simultaneous?
Three serial ports (in addition to the printer port, which is also just a
standard serial port). Under VMS/BSD/..., these will allow for 4
serial devices to be plugged in (terminals, printers, etc.)
It will boot up on one of the MMJ ports (probably either 1 or 3),
but it varies from system to system as to which one works.
Probably at 9600 baud.
And two scsi terminators. Two scsi buses?
Yup. Plenty of ports for SCSI devices.
So where does the kbd go???
On the terminal. It depends on what graphic board was in the
VaxStation as to what the connector was, but the keyboard
connector was usually built into the video cable.
Then it has this bulging cover that hides the MAC
address of the serial
interface.
They came with those covers over some of the extra ports.
Otherwise the box looks just like a vs3100 to me, so it should run
netbsd1.6. BTW for those who play with it: Ping works on a vs3100m38,
although it does not return the pkt count to console, so it looks
broken....hate dead dinosaurs! Try telnet instead and bingo!
Sounds like a 3100/10 to me.
13 Mar
13 Mar
6:48 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Fred deBros
Sent: 12 March 2003 03:04
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: DEC InfoServer ?
Specifically: Does anybody have the pinout to the db25 (not a db 15!)
plug of the infoserver 150 model SEACD - AX - A01 in the back? The
caption above the plug shows a square with an up-arrow in it. Monitor?
Combo kbd/mouse/monitor?
Fully standard RS232 for modem connections.
And the S1 switch nearby that switches regular
vs3100's between serial
and terminal console mode.
Does that mean it has a built-in framebuffer for at least b/w like all
vs3100's and can serve as a console?
Nope. Console is the left-most MMJ port on the back and is for something
like a VT420. No framebuffer in these things....
There are three mmj plugs in the back, named 1,2 and 3
with horiz arrows
to left and right: why three serial consoles? All simultaneous?
The 150's using the same hardware as a VAXstation so it gets 4 serial lines
too.
And two scsi terminators. Two scsi buses?
So where does the kbd go???
Into the VT420 :)
Otherwise the box looks just like a vs3100 to me, so
it should run
netbsd1.6. BTW for those who play with it: Ping works on a vs3100m38,
although it does not return the pkt count to console, so it looks
broken....hate dead dinosaurs! Try telnet instead and bingo!
There's definitely ROM differences since I don't recall ever getting a dead
sergeant prompt (>>>), it just auto-booted. Mind, we were using it in a
production environment so I didn't get much time to play with it....still,
it's downstairs now and I've been talking about doing a hardware comparison
for weeks now :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
6:54 a.m.
There's definitely ROM differences since I
don't recall ever getting a dead
sergeant prompt (>>>), it just auto-booted. Mind, we were using it in a
production environment so I didn't get much time to play with it....still,
it's downstairs now and I've been talking about doing a hardware comparison
for weeks now :)
You can get the >>> prompt on an Infoserver. I think
if you boot without the network attached you get the
prompt, otherwise you hit BREAK/^P/something else
while booting. I can't remember at the moment, but
I've done it before.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
16 Mar
16 Mar
4:36 p.m.
New subject: Midwest Classic vintage computer area
Hope this is appropriate for here. I'm a vintage computer collector (as
well as video game consoles and such), and co-organizer of the Midwest
Classic (www.midwestclassic.net). We have three main areas (vintage
video game consoles, vintage computers, and pinball).
I'd like to build up the participation (displays, attendance, etc.) of
people from the vintage computer scene. Beyond the 8 bit micro's that are
already on display (my collection at last year's event can be seen here -
http://www.goatstore.com/mwcp_mus.htm), I'd love to get some mini's there
as well as more informative (and fun) displays, and anything else people
would be willing to set up.
The show itself is non-profit (though if you yourselves have equipment,
software, etc. you want to sell, that's wonderful), and is on Saturday
June 7th from 10am to 8pm. The location is:
Nicolet High School
6701 North Jean Nicolet Road
Glendale, Wisconsin 53217
For those not familiar, Glendale is a suburb on the north side of
Milwaukee.
Feel free to contact me if you're intersted!
Marty
wgungfu(a)uwm.edu
ClassicGaming.Com
Atari Gaming Headquarters
www.atarihq.com
Museum of Home Video Gaming
www.classicgaming.com/gamingmuseum
3:44 p.m.
New subject: Midwest Classic vintage computer area
Martin,
Thanks for sharing this information. I can't attend -
I live in Boston and I'm quite a tight budget - but I
think there's a way we can help each other.
I'm a reporter at eWeek (the ZD magazine formerly
called PC Week), and seperately, I'm writing a book
about the history of handheld computing. The slant
is, what can the history teach us about the future?
Obviously handheld electronic games count as handheld
computers. I'm well aware of the mainstream products,
like the mid-1970s Mattel games (spent many hours with
my football game as a child!), Gameboy/Lynx, etc. I
bought a copy of the book Supercade, but to my
disappointment it didn't focus much on handhelds.
In your opinion, what was the FIRST electronic
handheld game? What was the first to give users the
choice of many games in one? First to actual have
graphics? Color graphics? Did any systems have other
more computer-like software?
I'm interested in discussing this at length. If
you're still online though, perhaps we could chat now,
just to say hello and introduce ourselves: I always
enjoy meeting others who are into this stuff.
Thanks,
Evan Koblentz (617.461.7194)
--- Martin Scott Goldberg <wgungfu(a)csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Hope this is appropriate for here. I'm a vintage
computer collector (as
well as video game consoles and such), and
co-organizer of the Midwest
Classic (www.midwestclassic.net). We have three
main areas (vintage
video game consoles, vintage computers, and
pinball).
I'd like to build up the participation (displays,
attendance, etc.) of
people from the vintage computer scene. Beyond the
8 bit micro's that are
already on display (my collection at last year's
event can be seen here -
http://www.goatstore.com/mwcp_mus.htm), I'd love to
get some mini's there
as well as more informative (and fun) displays, and
anything else people
would be willing to set up.
The show itself is non-profit (though if you
yourselves have equipment,
software, etc. you want to sell, that's wonderful),
and is on Saturday
June 7th from 10am to 8pm. The location is:
Nicolet High School
6701 North Jean Nicolet Road
Glendale, Wisconsin 53217
For those not familiar, Glendale is a suburb on the
north side of
Milwaukee.
Feel free to contact me if you're intersted!
Marty
wgungfu(a)uwm.edu
ClassicGaming.Com
Atari Gaming Headquarters
www.atarihq.com
Museum of Home Video Gaming
www.classicgaming.com/gamingmuseum
4:26 p.m.
New subject: Midwest Classic vintage computer area
In your opinion, what was the FIRST electronic
handheld game? What was the first to give users the
choice of many games in one? First to actual have
graphics? Color graphics? Did any systems have other
more computer-like software?
As to the first, there's some debate about it, but perhaps the first
strictly electronic handheld is Waco's "Tic-tac-toe" circa 1972. See
http://users2.ev1.net/~rik1138/Misc/WacoTicTacToe.htm
-W
3:44 p.m.
New subject: Midwest Classic vintage computer area
Martin,
Thanks for sharing this information. I can't attend -
I live in Boston and I'm quite a tight budget - but I
think there's a way we can help each other.
I'm a reporter at eWeek (the ZD magazine formerly
called PC Week), and seperately, I'm writing a book
about the history of handheld computing. The slant
is, what can the history teach us about the future?
Obviously handheld electronic games count as handheld
computers. I'm well aware of the mainstream products,
like the mid-1970s Mattel games (spent many hours with
my football game as a child!), Gameboy/Lynx, etc. I
bought a copy of the book Supercade, but to my
disappointment it didn't focus much on handhelds.
In your opinion, what was the FIRST electronic
handheld game? What was the first to give users the
choice of many games in one? First to actual have
graphics? Color graphics? Did any systems have other
more computer-like software?
I'm interested in discussing this at length. If
you're still online though, perhaps we could chat now,
just to say hello and introduce ourselves: I always
enjoy meeting others who are into this stuff.
Thanks,
Evan Koblentz (617.461.7194)
--- Martin Scott Goldberg <wgungfu(a)csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Hope this is appropriate for here. I'm a vintage
computer collector (as
well as video game consoles and such), and
co-organizer of the Midwest
Classic (www.midwestclassic.net). We have three
main areas (vintage
video game consoles, vintage computers, and
pinball).
I'd like to build up the participation (displays,
attendance, etc.) of
people from the vintage computer scene. Beyond the
8 bit micro's that are
already on display (my collection at last year's
event can be seen here -
http://www.goatstore.com/mwcp_mus.htm), I'd love to
get some mini's there
as well as more informative (and fun) displays, and
anything else people
would be willing to set up.
The show itself is non-profit (though if you
yourselves have equipment,
software, etc. you want to sell, that's wonderful),
and is on Saturday
June 7th from 10am to 8pm. The location is:
Nicolet High School
6701 North Jean Nicolet Road
Glendale, Wisconsin 53217
For those not familiar, Glendale is a suburb on the
north side of
Milwaukee.
Feel free to contact me if you're intersted!
Marty
wgungfu(a)uwm.edu
ClassicGaming.Com
Atari Gaming Headquarters
www.atarihq.com
Museum of Home Video Gaming
www.classicgaming.com/gamingmuseum
3:46 p.m.
New subject: Oops! Supposed to be private! Re: Midwest Classic vintage computer area
Sorry all! Please disregard.
EK
--- Martin Scott Goldberg <wgungfu(a)csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
Hope this is appropriate for here. I'm a vintage
computer collector (as
well as video game consoles and such), and
co-organizer of the Midwest
Classic (www.midwestclassic.net). We have three
main areas (vintage
video game consoles, vintage computers, and
pinball).
I'd like to build up the participation (displays,
attendance, etc.) of
people from the vintage computer scene. Beyond the
8 bit micro's that are
already on display (my collection at last year's
event can be seen here -
http://www.goatstore.com/mwcp_mus.htm), I'd love to
get some mini's there
as well as more informative (and fun) displays, and
anything else people
would be willing to set up.
The show itself is non-profit (though if you
yourselves have equipment,
software, etc. you want to sell, that's wonderful),
and is on Saturday
June 7th from 10am to 8pm. The location is:
Nicolet High School
6701 North Jean Nicolet Road
Glendale, Wisconsin 53217
For those not familiar, Glendale is a suburb on the
north side of
Milwaukee.
Feel free to contact me if you're intersted!
Marty
wgungfu(a)uwm.edu
ClassicGaming.Com
Atari Gaming Headquarters
www.atarihq.com
Museum of Home Video Gaming
www.classicgaming.com/gamingmuseum
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