OK, here's something that's (much) more on topic that talking about spoken language... Anyone listen to NPR's all things considered today? (friday) They had a short story about a commodore 64 user group in oregon. It basically profiled a group of mostly older people who still use and enjoy them for what they can still do. It also mentioned their scarcity and having to scrouge secondhand stores to find parts. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 view the computers of yesteryear at http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm --You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think--