Sounds like you are trying to move an sys/34? i tried a uhaul truck in the past, only to find that the metal ramp is just wide enough to allow the casters to lock on the the sides of the ramp. also ibm casters only move when they want and thier direction of travel is never the way you want them to go. what works for me? lumber in the form of 8 foot 4 by 6 cant's, a good chain fall and a trailer that has the wheels on eather side of it - not under it (keeps the weight of the load from allowing the trailer bottom deck to set down on top of the tires) the bridgeport page is the best example of this type of move. the chain falls? i use a second chain that is looped around two casters and 2x4's as levers if needed - my wooden trailer has a 3 inch hole in the back which allows a chain to pass through it on it's way to the tongue which is then wrapped around it - the chain falls go on the trailer side of the chain to pull the heavy metal on the ramps and into the trailer a forklift is the best way to load/unload heavy ibm metal from the trailer, if the forks are long enough or one picks up tje machine by the power supply end - ditto for all the sys3x series. Bill Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:56:32 -0400 (EDT) From: vance(a)neurotica.com Subject: Re: How do _you_ move equipment? What "tools" do you use? To: JP Hindin <jplist(a)kiwigeek.com> Cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, JP Hindin wrote: live to do has fallen best to lift what has __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/