1 Nov
1998
1 Nov
'98
2:03 p.m.
For me, a personal computer is defined as any computer that I own and
operate. If I could find a SYS/360 or SYS370, or Sigma/7 or Sigma/9 or
a CDC 7600/6600/etc or a DPS/9, or ... ( well, you get the idea), I would
consider such a computer a personal computer. Any body know where
I can get one of these behemoths?
William R. Buckley
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From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: PDP-11/44 boot prompt
Sorry, I meant
home personal computers. PDPs, IMSAIs, various
development systems don't count. Satisfied?
Ah, but on this list, and most definitly in my home, PDP's, IMSAI's, etc.
are home personal computers :^)
Besides Allison mentioned the IBM PC with ROM BASIC, and I've used a Zenith
Z248 (a 286) with a ROM Monitor that you can drop into, both of these are
definitly not developement machines. My NeXT slab had a ROM based monitor,
and the PowerMac I'm typing this on can be dropped into the debugger at any
time by hitting the proper key sequence.
Zane
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1 Nov
1 Nov
3:30 p.m.
New subject: definition of personal computer
"Buck Savage" <hhacker(a)gte.net> wrote:
For me, a personal computer is defined as any computer
that I own
and operate.
^^^^^^^^^^^
If I could find a SYS/360 or SYS370, or Sigma/7 or
Sigma/9 or
a CDC 7600/6600/etc or a DPS/9, or ... ( well, you get the idea), I would
consider such a computer a personal computer. Any body know where
I can get one of these behemoths?
No, and by your own definition I don't think a CDC 6600 or 7600 will *ever*
be a personal computer for anyone. It would be *much* harder for an
individual to operate one of those than the DECsystem-1090 that Scott and I
have, and we're not much closer to operating that than when we got it.
3:43 p.m.
New subject: definition of personal computer
> For me, a personal computer is defined as any
computer that I own
> and operate.
Is it time again for our weekly semantics game already? OK!
Personal Computer: a computer small enough for one person to easily
transport, cheap enough for one person to easily afford, and simple enough
for one person to operate (i.e., interactive). The first personal
computer was Edmund Berkeley's GENIAC from around 1955.
-- Doug
2 Nov
2 Nov
8:51 a.m.
For me, a personal computer is defined as any computer
that I own and
operate. If I could find a SYS/360 or SYS370, or Sigma/7 or Sigma/9 or
a CDC 7600/6600/etc or a DPS/9, or ... ( well, you get the idea), I would
consider such a computer a personal computer. Any body know where
I can get one of these behemoths?
How about a DPS/6? There is one for the taking in Indiana.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
11:56 a.m.
On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, William Donzelli wrote:
How about a DPS/6? There is one for the taking in
Indiana.
Oh yeah? Where?
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12:15 p.m.
New subject: Honeywell DPS/6 (was Re: PDP-11/44 boot prompt)
Oh yeah? Where?
<snip>
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 08:26:32 -0500
From: Russ Kreigh <kreigh(a)fwi.com>
To: william(a)ans.net
Subject: Re: Wanted: older computer stuff
Honeywell DPS/6 Minicomputer
2 Big 6 foot tape drives
Located in northeast indiana
<snip>
Contact him.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
7:26 p.m.
New subject: Honeywell DPS/6 (was Re: PDP-11/44 boot prompt)
<SHUDDER> you'd have to be a glutten for punishment! I've used them,
GCOS-6 isn't my idea of a fun time. Of course most of my experience was
with a DPS-8 and GCOS-8 (not much fun either). I hope whoever get's it
also good set of Doc's both for the software and the Hardware! If those
are the Honeywell drives I suspect, they're a pain.
BTW, the Navy used the DPS-6 for Supply computers, and started retiring
them in 1994. They also used them for other things. If you can find any
old "Data Processing Technicians" that never throw anything out, you might
be able to find some doc's if they went to any of the Honeywell schools,
most tossed the books after the class. Honeywell did have good training,
and most classes provided you with great manuals. I never took any DPS-6
classes so not sure what all they had, all my docs are for programming the
DPS-8.
Zane
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Oh yeah?
Where?
<snip>
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 08:26:32 -0500
From: Russ Kreigh <kreigh(a)fwi.com>
To: william(a)ans.net
Subject: Re: Wanted: older computer stuff
Honeywell DPS/6 Minicomputer
2 Big 6 foot tape drives
Located in northeast indiana
<snip>
Contact him.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net 
11 Nov
11 Nov
10:25 p.m.
New subject: Honeywell DPS/6 (was Re: PDP-11/44 boot prompt)
On Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 06:26:13PM -0700, Zane H. Healy wrote:
<SHUDDER> you'd have to be a glutten for
punishment! I've used them,
GCOS-6 isn't my idea of a fun time. Of course most of my experience was
with a DPS-8 and GCOS-8 (not much fun either). I hope whoever get's it
Does DPS hardware have CII-Honeywell Bull IRIS compatibility mode?
Is it true that CII IRIS series are clones of XDS Sigma 7?
--
Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru
9:47 p.m.
New subject: Honeywell DPS/6 (was Re: PDP-11/44 boot prompt)
On Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 06:26:13PM -0700, Zane H. Healy
wrote:
Well, as I understand it Honeywell bought GE's computer section in the
70's, and I believe the hardware is based on their systems. GCOS was
originally GECOS, but the name was changed when Honeywell bought it. Group
Bull bought the computer section off of Honeywell in the 80's, but do to
some of their contracts with the US government there was a sort of go
between company in the US formed to take care of those contracts.
Group Bull had and has it's own systems I believe that are totally
nonrelated to Honeywells systems. So, I believe the DPS hardware wouldn't
have a compatibility mode, and no idea on the CII IRIS systems question.
The only things I ever dealt with were straight Honeywell systems and a
DPS-6 emulated on a HP9000.
Zane
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<SHUDDER> you'd have to be a glutten
for punishment! I've used them,
GCOS-6 isn't my idea of a fun time. Of course most of my experience was
with a DPS-8 and GCOS-8 (not much fun either). I hope whoever get's it
Does DPS hardware have CII-Honeywell Bull IRIS compatibility mode?
Is it true that CII IRIS series are clones of XDS Sigma 7?
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