On 22 Dec 2013 Al Kossow wrote: I'm not sure they stole it so much as randomly made up a pci uid/vid pair, which happened later to be used for that isdn card. Or its possible that the pci interface chip on the cw mkiv was a large overstock of china-bought chips which had been masked for the card. I have no idea. It can be worked around by forbidding load of the module for the isdn card in linux. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu at gmail.com jgevaryahu at hotmail.com