22 Nov
2005
22 Nov
'05
12:17 a.m.
On Nov 21 2005, 22:51, Jules Richardson wrote:
Yes, but there's a limit on the size of a single drive in ADFS.
I have an ADFS E copy of the contents which I could zip/tar if that's
any help. Or if you have a spare DD 3.5" disk I can make a copy (I
have some software to do that much). I think what you're really
looking for is the NetMgr program.
Pete Turnbull wrote:
> There will be some limit, but I'm not sure
what it is. More than
20MB,
> for sure. Might be 500MB, maybe less. I know
that stacking
filestores
> use the same code, and I know that although the
largest ones sold
and
supported by
Acorn were 60MB, they had bigger in-house.
They didn't just stack them (as was intended by design)? > Yes, two 3.5" floppies. And I just happen
to have a set :-) One
is
for use with a
Master 128 called "M128-FSUTILS"
Hmm, if you can ever do a raw image dump of that, shout! :-) [Econet test box]
Is that this critter? :
http://www.beebmaster.co.uk/ETB.html
It is.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Amazingly
I have this test box, I don't have the software.
Ditto! The test box pre-dates the Master series, though. It was
around when Beebs were. 
22 Nov
22 Nov
12:45 p.m.
Pete Turnbull wrote:
Hard to date it then. The only thing that springs to mind is that early Acorn
clock boxes were in the same style of "bought from Maplin" cases :)
(Actually, didn't the Econet software protocol change very early on... maybe
such a unit - or at least the software - wouldn't even work on a typical
'modern' Econet even if anyone did have a copy)
cheers
Jules
On Nov 21 2005, 22:51, Jules Richardson wrote:
I have an ADFS E copy of the contents which I could zip/tar if that's
any help. Or if you have a spare DD 3.5" disk I can make a copy (I
have some software to do that much). I think what you're really
looking for is the NetMgr program.
Hmm, well apparently the way to get around not knowing the password is to set
up a fileserver on another disk (which may be a floppy) using the setup floppy
- that way you end up with a bootable fileserver where you know the password.
Then just treat the existing hard disk as a secondary store and you can
explore it quite happily. It wouldn't surprise me if it was you who told me
this (or Ian W) over on the BBC list about 4 months ago :-)
It didn't seem like the level-3 disks were out there on the 'net in any
suitable form though.
I'm not sure what the best way of getting them to me is. I suppose having them
on 5.25" is easier than 3.5", although I do have one beeb somewhere with a
3.5" drive attached. Maybe a zip of the contents is the best plan, then I can
drop them on the PC and use Xfer to get them across onto a beeb and onto
whatever media makes most sense.
(I've never tried xfer for individual files, only for complete disk images,
but it should work)
Yes, two
3.5" floppies. And I just happen to have a set :-) One is
for use with a Master 128 called "M128-FSUTILS"
Hmm, if you can ever do
a raw image dump of that, shout! :-) [Econet test
box]
Is that this critter? :
http://www.beebmaster.co.uk/ETB.html
It is. Amazingly
I have this test box, I don't have the software.
Ditto! The test box pre-dates
the Master series, though. It was
around when Beebs were. 
8:51 p.m.
[Econet test box]
It is. > Amazingly I have this test box, I don't
have the software.
Ditto! The test box pre-dates the Master series, though. It was
around when Beebs were.
Is that this critter? :
http://www.beebmaster.co.uk/ETB.html clock boxes were in the same style of "bought
from Maplin" cases :)
Standard Veroboxes (from the same company that makes Veroboard
stripboard). Very common in the 1980s.
(Actually, didn't the Econet software protocol
change very early on... maybe
such a unit - or at least the software - wouldn't even work on a typical
'modern' Econet even if anyone did have a copy)
The Econet test box knows nothing of the Econet protocol. What it
contains is a mini-econet -- 2 DIN sockets with the termination circuits,
linked together. There's a relay which switches in an RC network to
degrade the network line (to ensure the unit-under-test will work on a
normal cable) and a simple clock circuit (fixed frequency, fixed duty
cycle). Two lines of the user port on the testing computer control the
relay and enable the clock.
That's all there is to it. I've traced out a schematic, I think a copy
of that in the pile of stuff to give you when we meet up.
-tony
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