30 Jan
2021
30 Jan
'21
12:37 p.m.
On 1/29/21 12:58 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Uh - Python comes to mind...
~~
Mark Moulding
I like
indentation, and demanded it from my students.
That's fine, but when you have a language that makes indentation part of
the language (i.e. no braces, brackets or keywords denoting boundaries
of the block) , there be monsters.
And yes, there are such languages. 
30 Jan
30 Jan
1:38 p.m.
New subject: APL\360 (Was: cctalk Digest, Vol 76, Issue 29
Actually, that was Chuck who said that "there be monsters" when languages
use whitespace rather than punctuation to denote boundaries.
I use both indentation for my readability AND brackets to be explicit.
Consider:
if condition
{ do this;
do that;
}
VS:
if (condition)
do this;
do that; /* will be done disunirregardless of condition */
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021, Mark Moulding via cctalk wrote:
On 1/29/21 12:58 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Uh - Python comes to mind...
~~
Mark Moulding
I like
indentation, and demanded it from my students.
That's fine, but when you have a language that makes indentation part of
the language (i.e. no braces, brackets or keywords denoting boundaries
of the block) , there be monsters.
And yes, there are such languages. 
3:05 p.m.
New subject: APL\360 (Was: cctalk Digest, Vol 76, Issue 29
On 1/30/21 1:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Actually, that was Chuck who said that "there be
monsters" when
languages use whitespace rather than punctuation to denote boundaries.
And then there's "make", where a hard tab must be used for indentation,
unless it's a recipe, then spaces must be used for indentation.
One of those cases where one asks "Who wrote this (*&@#?"?
--Chuck
4:26 p.m.
On Sat, 2021-01-30 at 12:37 -0800, Mark Moulding via cctalk wrote:
On 1/29/21 12:58 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Uh - Python comes to mind...
And Occam, invented for the Transputer.
I like
indentation, and demanded it from my students.
That's fine, but when you have a language that makes indentation part of
the language (i.e. no braces, brackets or keywords denoting boundaries
of the block) , there be monsters.
And yes, there are such languages. ~~
Mark Moulding
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