Well now let me see now I left School for College in 1964. My major subjects were Industrial Electronics and Computing. We were taken to Harwell Research centre to see 'The' Computer. It was an ICL 1900 series system. It took up three floors of a substantial building. Input on the top floor (80col Cards and papertape). Processing and storage on the middle floor and output on the ground floor. Had to be that way or the vibration from the line printers would have shaken the building to pieces. I remember it was called Atlas and even had an operating system called George III. So that's just over 40 years ago. In computer terms certainly vintage if not veteran. Rod Smallwood -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan Dicks Sent: 14 May 2007 16:39 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: A local computer history group for my area . . . On 5/14/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote: Yeah... the definition of "old" tends to be quite subjective, as in "prior to what was current when _I_ got started with foo." I tend to think of "old" as 100% TTL designs, i.e. - pre-microprocessor, but that's because I got my start with the 6502 and 1802, then later came upon M-series DEC logic-based machines (like the PDP-8/L). -ethan