25 Feb
2002
25 Feb
'02
9:12 a.m.
Until I have a pressing need for 64 bits, I will
probably keep this
box at a low priority, but if any of the PDP-10 emulators would
rather be on a medium to slow-speed 64-bit machine rather than on a
medium to fast 32-bit machine, I might dust it off. I just don't see
where it's anything besides cool for the sake of cool right now.
I've not tried running KLH10 on the AlphaStation 200 4/233 running OpenBSD I
have, but I've run the PDP-10 version of SIMH on it. You really don't want
to do that. It was usable, BUT it was *CONSIDERABLY* slower than a KS10.
I've got a 500Mhz Celeron w/256MB RAM, and a 8MB HD plugged into a bare
MicroATX i810 board sitting on a shelf. It makes a killer PDP-10, and can
run two copies of SIMH (TOPS-10 7.03 and TOPS-20 4.1) at or faster than KS10
speeds. Of course what I really like is the 1Ghz PIII running KLH10 running
TOPS-20 V7.0, especially since I can telnet directly into it :^)
Zane
PS anyone looking for information on emulating DEC systems should see:
http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html especially for PDP-10 emulation.
26 Feb
26 Feb
5:38 a.m.
I have a KLH10 running as ojamajo-doremi.umtec.com - It seems to be fine,
even though the machine is a P233. You can also telnet directly to it,
even if there's still a few bugs to be knocked out (DNS doesn't work because
I have to make a new monitor, and one of the source files is missing - Also,
SMTP mail does not work.) but I might be able to make that a public-abuse
machine. I've already made accounts for a few of my friends already.
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6:46 a.m.
Daniel,
too bad, you're running TOPS-20. Certainly a fine operating system, I
heard several really nice things about it, but I don't have any personal
experience with it. Is it true there is an UNDELETE command that can be
used until you PURGE or log out?
You don't possibly have a machine running TOPS-10? - It would be great
fun to meet such a monitor again. I _loved_ that reply when you said
/M/P to FILDDT: "[patching the running monitor]" - try that with any
machine today!
Remember the answer TECO gave when you wanted to create ("MAKE") a file
named LOVE?
Ever tried to execute a GOTO HELL command outside MIC?
Etc., etc... - If I only had more time, I'd really need one of those
emulators!
Good luck!
Andreas
"Daniel A. Seagraves" wrote:
I have a KLH10 running as ojamajo-doremi.umtec.com - It seems to be fine,
even though the machine is a P233. You can also telnet directly to it,
even if there's still a few bugs to be knocked out (DNS doesn't work because
I have to make a new monitor, and one of the source files is missing - Also,
SMTP mail does not work.) but I might be able to make that a public-abuse
machine. I've already made accounts for a few of my friends already.
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Andreas Freiherr
Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany
http://www.vishay.com
6:09 p.m.
[TOPS-20...]
Well, I'd like to run a TOPS-10 instead, seeing as there are already two
perfectly good TOPS-20 machines (Toad and XKLeTen) on the net, but TOPS-10
does not support TCP/IP, and therefore won't run multi-user under KLH10.
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7:44 a.m.
New subject: PDP-10 Emulators
I have a KLH10 running as ojamajo-doremi.umtec.com -
It seems to be fine,
even though the machine is a P233. You can also telnet directly to it,
even if there's still a few bugs to be knocked out (DNS doesn't work because
I have to make a new monitor, and one of the source files is missing - Also,
SMTP mail does not work.) but I might be able to make that a public-abuse
machine. I've already made accounts for a few of my friends already.
Out of curiousity, how have you got it connected to the net? Direct or NAT?
I've tried redirecting a port to it with my NAT setup, but then it doesn't
echo the characters correctly.
My biggest problem is FTP.EXE
$ftp
?Illegal instruction 0 at 647203
?Undefined operation code
$
Zane
6:10 p.m.
New subject: PDP-10 Emulators
SENDER
[How connected, and FTP...]
FTP likes having the host you are talking to in the ARPA host table.
The machine is directly connected.
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27 Feb
27 Feb
6:35 a.m.
New subject: PDP-10 Emulators
SENDER
[How connected, and FTP...]
FTP likes having the host you are talking to in the ARPA host table.
The machine is directly connected.
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I FINALLY figured it out! I realized that TELNET couldn't connect to a
host if you used the hostname, it would bomb, BUT it could connect using
the IP address. The default HOSTS.TXT file was to big. I trimmed it down
to just what I needed and I can now use FTP.EXE and TELNET works just like
it should. Of course now I've got to dig out the manual to figure out how
to use it!
That's been plagueing me for well over three months!
Zane
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