The "Compaqq owner" attitude is (after buying said machine) that "this is the biggest piece of sh**" -> -----Original Message----- -> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Glen Goodwin -> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:06 PM -> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> Subject: Re: HP & Compaq -> -> -> > From: Russ Blakeman &lt;rhblakeman(a)kih.net&gt; -> -> > I never have a problem with the business line of HP PCs' -> (Kayak, Brio and -> > Vectra) - the Pavilion line keeps me going with warranty repairs at $65 -> per -> > inshop repair and $30 per "exchange unit". -> -> I was specifically referring to the Pavilions. The Vectras were -> especially -> well-made. -> -> > I only get one of every 50 or 60 -> > owners that have the Compaq owner's attitude about HP's machines. -> -> Not too sure what you're saying here. -> -> > If you contact customer support at HP they can either ship a -> free restore -> > set if it's under warranty and you tell them it's there but -> not loading. -> If -> > you've lost it, in or out of warranty, they can sell you a -> replacemant if -> > you supply the unit serial number. -> -> Problem is the customers often won't wait. We're famous for <= -> 2-day-turnaround ;>) -> -> > Packard Bell wasn't bad near the end of their reign of terror. They got -> real -> > too late and were already on a downward spiral fast towards earth. -> -> Yeah, their P-II boxes were *almost* standard ATX. -> -> > I don't know why anyone feels the HP restore is bloated...it's all -> > MicroSteal for the most part. All windows 98, NT, ME and 2k -> stuff is huge -> > and you need a broadband connection to download it. I just -> popped $20 for -> > the Win NT 4.0 service pack 6.0a rather than sit for 2 days downloading -> it. -> -> I never download any MS stuff. -> -> I'm referring to the device drivers for goodies like the Riptide -> sound/modem combo. The drivers posted at hp.com are > 9MB. The -> *real* fun -> begins when, after the download, the installation program pukes up a -> message: "Cannot find original driver files -- update terminated" or -> something to that effect. Why aren't the originals available on their -> site??? And what sort of code, exactly, is in a > 14 MB video driver??? -> -> When I was writing C for a living, if I had ever produced an -> executable -- -> never mind a device driver -- which occupied 14 MB of disk space I would -> have been sent packing. Sheesh. -> -> Glen -> 0/0 -> ->