3 Apr
2005
3 Apr
'05
3:04 p.m.
I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be
ideal, But any version would work, as would ISO
images or an actual CD. Anybody have any leads?
Thanks much
John
3 Apr
3 Apr
3:53 p.m.
John Willis declared on Sunday 03 April 2005 02:04 pm:
I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be
ideal, But any version would work, as would ISO
images or an actual CD. Anybody have any leads?
I'm not sure what version you need, but VAX COBOL is on the hobbyist
OpenVMS CD distribution, or at least the one I've got (V7.2).
Pat
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5:22 p.m.
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
John Willis declared on Sunday 03 April 2005 02:04
pm:
Pat is correct -- it's on the OpenVMS CD, not the ConDist.
Glen
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I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be
ideal, But any version would work, as would ISO
images or an actual CD. Anybody have any leads?
I'm not sure what version you need, but VAX COBOL is on the hobbyist
OpenVMS CD distribution, or at least the one I've got (V7.2).
Pat
5:44 p.m.
I know, answering my own post . . .
For the record, on the OpenVMS Hobbyist CD version 7.3, COBOL is no
longer present. BASIC, Pascal, C, and FORTRAN are still included.
Glen
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Glen Goodwin wrote:
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
John Willis declared on Sunday 03 April 2005
02:04 pm:
Pat is correct -- it's on the OpenVMS CD, not the ConDist.
Glen
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I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be
ideal, But any version would work, as would ISO
images or an actual CD. Anybody have any leads?
I'm not sure what version you need, but VAX COBOL is on the hobbyist
OpenVMS CD distribution, or at least the one I've got (V7.2).
Pat 
4 Apr
4 Apr
8:59 p.m.
I found Compaq Cobol for VMS on one of my SPL CD sets, I think (the
stuff is at work) it was from around
2000, it is COBOL 5.6. I probably have 5.4 or earlier, as my SPL stuff
covers a few years, pretty much from
mid 90s to 2000.
Joe Heck
Glen Goodwin wrote:
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
John Willis declared on Sunday 03 April 2005
02:04 pm:
Pat is correct -- it's on the OpenVMS CD, not the ConDist.
Glen
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I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be
ideal, But any version would work, as would ISO
images or an actual CD. Anybody have any leads?
I'm not sure what version you need, but VAX COBOL is on the hobbyist
OpenVMS CD distribution, or at least the one I've got (V7.2).
Pat 
3 Apr
3 Apr
4:13 p.m.
Subject: Looking for VAX COBOL media
I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be ideal, But
any version would work, as would ISO images or an actual CD.
Anybody have any leads?
Hi John,
Which version are you after? I've brought my entire stock of CDs down to my
weekday home so they're easily accessible now.
cheers
a
5:19 p.m.
Any version is good, but 5.1 would be great and 5.7 would be awesome.
on 4/3/05 2:13 PM, Adrian Graham at witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk wrote:
Subject: Looking for VAX COBOL media
I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be ideal, But
any version would work, as would ISO images or an actual CD.
Anybody have any leads?
Hi John,
Which version are you after? I've brought my entire stock of CDs down to my
weekday home so they're easily accessible now.
cheers
a
5:45 p.m.
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Subject: Re: Looking for VAX COBOL media
Any version is good, but 5.1 would be great and 5.7 would be awesome.
K, do you have an approximate date for 5.7? I can cover much of the 90s
CDDS....
cheers
a
4 Apr
4 Apr
12:16 p.m.
New subject: VAX COBOL media, and RRD40 difficulties
IIRC, 5.7 is the latest version, though I don't
believe it has been updated in a long time.
The biggest reason for wanting 5.7 is because it
supports full-screen I/O (i.e. ACCEPT and DISPLAY
have features to support printing to or taking input
John P. Willis
Coherent Logic Development
from a specified point on the screen). I do believe
5.7 came out after 1997, but not sure when.
I had bought a TK50 of 5.1 off eBay, but FedEx
delivered it with no signature, and I can't find the
package anywhere on the grounds of my small 8-unit
apartment complex.
On a side note, I have an RRD40 with RRD50 controller
for the uVAX II the COBOL is intended to be used on,
but I received it with no caddies. Sure wish DEC had
used the same caddies that everyone else in the industry
used, and not some proprietary junk. Anyone have leads
on caddies? If so, please reply off-list.
Also, when I installed the RRD50, the system passes
boot-up diagnostics, but VMS now crashes on bootup. Any
pointers?
Thanks much,
John
Adrian Graham writes:
Any version is
good, but 5.1 would be great and 5.7 would be awesome.
K, do you have an approximate date for 5.7? I can cover much of the 90s
CDDS....
cheers
a
3:40 p.m.
New subject: VAX COBOL media, and RRD40 difficulties
On a side note, I have an RRD40 with RRD50 controller
for the uVAX II the COBOL is intended to be used on,
but I received it with no caddies. Sure wish DEC had
used the same caddies that everyone else in the industry
used, and not some proprietary junk. Anyone have leads
on caddies? If so, please reply off-list.
I don't think they are DEC-designed caddies: the RRD50 and
the later RRD40 are both (IIRC) Philips designs. The caddies
are Philips - they invented the technology (with others) so
I'm not sure you can label them proprietary. They were also
either the first or nearly the first to do something other
than a flip top (like the RRD50[1]). It's hard to follow
the herd when you are riding point ...
I've sent my last spare to another list member today.
Also, when I installed the RRD50, the system passes
boot-up diagnostics, but VMS now crashes on bootup. Any
pointers?
I'm pretty sure the KRQ50+RRD40 combo is supported (always
assuming you have not bodged a SCSI-RRD40 to work there :-)).
Unlike WXP, OpenVMS has plenty of crash diagnostic tools so
this could be debugged. But before going down that path,
I would carefully inspect your bus and make sure that you
are not missing some grant card in there or have committed
some other heinous sin.
Antonio
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Antonio Carlini arcarlini at iee.org
5 Apr
5 Apr
2:16 a.m.
New subject: VAX COBOL media, and RRD40 difficulties
On Apr 5, 2005 3:40 AM, Antonio Carlini <a.carlini at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure the KRQ50+RRD40 combo is supported
(always
assuming you have not bodged a SCSI-RRD40 to work there :-)).
Well, thanks for the encouragement... :-}
In fact, I'm planning to "bodge" a SCS-RRD40 to work with the KRQ50...
I figured, all I need is just a cable from the KRQ50 to the CDROM's
native LMS interface.
Any tips?
/wai-sun
1:33 p.m.
New subject: VAX COBOL media, and RRD40 difficulties
Wai-Sun Chia wrote:
Well, thanks for the encouragement... :-}
Always happy to help :-)
In fact, I'm planning to "bodge" a
SCS-RRD40 to work with the
KRQ50... I figured, all I need is just a cable from the KRQ50
to the CDROM's native LMS interface.
I have a number of "SCSI RRD40"s that came from the innards
of a VAXstation 3100 at some stage. They look to be a base
LMSI RRD40 with a SCSI converter board. I expect that my boxed
SCSI RRD40 is the same.
So accessing the LMSI interface is probably easy.
The connector at the KRQ50 end is (IIRC) just the usual
amphenol one that DEC seemed to use on a number of
different interfaces.
So that just leaves the wiring.
Sadly I cannot help there. I've never seen the actual cable
so I do not know the pinout. I would guess that it is pretty
much straight through (or maybe with one logical twist) but
that still leaves a couple of possibilities and I do not know
how much harm it would do to just "try" one.
Maybe you can flush out someone on the list with KRQ50
prints or an actual example of the cable.
Don't forget to publish your findings here if you ever do
try it and it works (or fails .... might as well know
what *doesn't* work!).
Antonio
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Antonio Carlini arcarlini at iee.org
4 Apr
4 Apr
6:41 p.m.
New subject: VAX COBOL media, and RRD40 difficulties
On a side note, I have an RRD40 with RRD50 controller
for the uVAX II the COBOL is intended to be used on,
but I received it with no caddies. Sure wish DEC had
used the same caddies that everyone else in the industry
used, and not some proprietary junk. Anyone have leads
on caddies? If so, please reply off-list.
Actually, they're not 'proprietary junk'. They are the same caddies as
used onm the original Philips CD-ROM drive. They were also used on at
least one Amiga CD-ROM drive.
In many ways those caddies are the original standard.
[I have _one_. I am keeping it as I have the Philips drive I just
mentioned..]
-tony
3 Apr
3 Apr
5:20 p.m.
John Willis wrote:
I am looking for VAX COBOL media. TK50 would be
ideal, But any version would work, as would ISO
images or an actual CD. Anybody have any leads?
Thanks much
John
Is it a violation of copyright if I burn you a copy of the appropriate
condist CD? You'll need a license, of course.
Glen
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