9 Aug
2003
9 Aug
'03
7:01 a.m.
Whilst Browsing - ran across this fascinating - and well designed! -
group of pages on IBM's site. Includes a whole section on "IBM Dress"
rather tongue-in-cheekingly called 'The Way We Wore'...
http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/
Enjoy. There are many sections that go into great detail about
historical IBM gear and systems, many fine pix, etc.
Cheers
John
9 Aug
9 Aug
2:15 p.m.
Whilst Browsing - ran across this fascinating - and
well designed! -
professionally produced by an advertising agency
group of pages on IBM's site. Includes a whole
section on "IBM Dress"
rather tongue-in-cheekingly called 'The Way We Wore'...
http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/
THAT part is at:
http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/waywewore/waywewore_1.html
Ah, yes. IBM, where they "value diversity"
http://www-3.ibm.com/employment/us/diverse/
Go through "The Way We Wore", where they insist that the IBM clothing has
NEVER been "uniform", and count (except for the last CONTRIVED and POSED
shot in 1997) how many men you see who are NOT wearing a white shirt,
necktie, and suit. IBM has ALWAYS been well known for their suppression
of individuality, and their racial and cultural tokenism.
Ah, yes. IBM. where they "value diversity"
2:22 p.m.
Go through "The Way We Wore", where they
insist that the IBM clothing has
NEVER been "uniform", and count (except for the last CONTRIVED and POSED
shot in 1997) how many men you see who are NOT wearing a white shirt,
necktie, and suit. IBM has ALWAYS been well known for their suppression
of individuality, and their racial and cultural tokenism.
Ah, yes. IBM. where they "value diversity"
Jeez, what happened? Did IBM run over your dog or something?
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
2:38 p.m.
> Go through "The Way We Wore", where
they insist that the IBM clothing has
> NEVER been "uniform", and count (except for the last CONTRIVED and POSED
> shot in 1997) how many men you see who are NOT wearing a white shirt,
> necktie, and suit. IBM has ALWAYS been well known for their suppression
> of individuality, and their racial and cultural tokenism.
> Ah, yes. IBM. where they "value diversity"
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, William Donzelli wrote:
Jeez, what happened? Did IBM run over your dog or
something?
Have you been off planet for the last half century??
2:43 p.m.
You mean the part where IBM has been unfairly accused of stifling
creativity?
Peace... Sridhar
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Go
through "The Way We Wore", where they insist that the IBM clothing has
> NEVER been "uniform", and count (except for the last CONTRIVED and POSED
> shot in 1997) how many men you see who are NOT wearing a white shirt,
> necktie, and suit. IBM has ALWAYS been well known for their suppression
> of individuality, and their racial and cultural tokenism.
> Ah, yes. IBM. where they "value diversity"
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, William Donzelli wrote:
Jeez, what happened? Did IBM run over your dog or
something?
Have you been off planet for the last half century??
10 Aug
10 Aug
9:53 a.m.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 vance(a)neurotica.com wrote:
You mean the part where IBM has been unfairly accused
of stifling
creativity?
NO!
I did NOT say anything about that! (although some could argue
that IBM's use of patents as a competitive tactic (brass roller,
shape of punch card hole, etc.) might qualify)
IBM has done enormous amounts of brilliant and creative work in
engineering. -- "a MYRIAD of great inventions" :-)
Instead, I was objecting solely to their false
statements that they had NEVER had a dress code.
Even their necktie rule was not relaxed for CE's until
a few HORRIBLE incidents proved that it was a safety issue.
If they had shown their "1997" picture with a stement saying,
"We NO LONGER have a dress code", then it might be true.
OB_OT: Is there anybody here from DRI 23 years ago, who can
confirm or deny (FIRST PERSON) that when the IBM contingent
showed up at the door of Digital Research, there was some
fear (based on apparel) that it was a drug raid?
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Fred Cisin wrote:
> > > Go through "The Way We Wore", where they insist that the IBM
clothing has
> > > NEVER been "uniform", and count (except for the last CONTRIVED
and POSED
> > > shot in 1997) how many men you see who are NOT wearing a white shirt,
> > > necktie, and suit. IBM has ALWAYS been well known for their suppression
> > > of individuality, and their racial and cultural tokenism.
> > > Ah, yes. IBM. where they "value diversity"
>
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, William Donzelli wrote:
> > Jeez, what happened? Did IBM run over your dog or something?
>
>
> Have you been off planet for the last half century??
9 Aug
9 Aug
2:43 p.m.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Fred Cisin wrote:
The majority of the engineering staff was non-European through most of my
Dad's career in his dept.
Peace... Sridhar
Whilst
Browsing - ran across this fascinating - and well designed! -
professionally produced by an advertising agency group of pages on
IBM's site. Includes a whole section on "IBM Dress" rather
tongue-in-cheekingly called 'The Way We Wore'...
http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/
THAT part is at:
http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/waywewore/waywewore_1.html
Ah, yes. IBM, where they "value diversity"
http://www-3.ibm.com/employment/us/diverse/
Go through "The Way We Wore", where they insist that the IBM clothing
has NEVER been "uniform", and count (except for the last CONTRIVED and
POSED shot in 1997) how many men you see who are NOT wearing a white
shirt, necktie, and suit. IBM has ALWAYS been well known for their
suppression of individuality, and their racial and cultural tokenism. 
3:04 p.m.
Well, a good site it is. But where's the famous (infamous?) IBM
Corpporate Songbook? It's just not complete without that!
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:58:05 -0400 (EDT), "John Lawson" <jpl15(a)panix.com>
said:
Whilst Browsing - ran across this fascinating - and
well designed! -
group of pages on IBM's site. Includes a whole section on "IBM Dress"
rather tongue-in-cheekingly called 'The Way We Wore'...
http://www-1.ibm.com/ibm/history/
Enjoy. There are many sections that go into great detail about
historical IBM gear and systems, many fine pix, etc.
Cheers
John
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