Thanks for the info! that is basically what I was thinking, but I hadn't forced the port speed and duplex yet. I turned some debugging features on and see exactly what you were talking about ! Thanks Carl -----Original Message----- From: Fred N. van Kempen [mailto:Fred.van.Kempen@microwalt.nl] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:47 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Lindahl, Carl Subject: RE: VAX VMS Question Yes. On the 2950, set the port to 10Mbps, half-duplex, no flow control, no spanning tree: int fastethernet 0/xxx speed 10 duplex half flow none spanning-tree portfast no shutdown or somesuch. The Cisco ASIC's hate the VAX ethernet port, same here on my 4000. Basically, the ether connection is bouncing between between various modes, making it slow and such. --fred