24 Apr
2001
24 Apr
'01
9:22 a.m.
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found a stereotypical Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN plug on the end - but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub. I know it's factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded into it.
Anyone know the function of this cable? Is it possibly a factory cable to
allow connection to a PC serial port with Commodore peripherals, or PC
peripherals to a Commodore port? Never seen one like this and I don't think
I've heard of one like this. I know there's Commodore savvy people on this
list and they'll know exactly what it's for. Any help is appreciated very
much...
24 Apr
24 Apr
11:38 a.m.
Hi!
Are you sure it's not a 23 pin D connector? If so, it
a video cable for the monitor.
Steve
--- Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> wrote:
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found a
stereotypical Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN plug
on the end - but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub. I
know it's factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded into
it.
Anyone know the function of this cable? Is it
possibly a factory cable to
allow connection to a PC serial port with Commodore
peripherals, or PC
peripherals to a Commodore port? Never seen one like
this and I don't think
I've heard of one like this. I know there's
Commodore savvy people on this
list and they'll know exactly what it's for. Any
help is appreciated very
much...
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12:04 p.m.
Okay I looked quick and "assumed" it was a 25, might be a 23...I completely
forgot that it might be video. I guess they are made strictly for Commodore
brand monitors...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:39 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is this????
Hi!
Are you sure it's not a 23 pin D connector? If so, it
a video cable for the monitor.
Steve
--- Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> wrote:
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found
a
stereotypical Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN plug
on the end - but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub. I
know it's factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded into
it.
Anyone know the function of this cable? Is it
possibly a factory cable to
allow connection to a PC serial port with Commodore
peripherals, or PC
peripherals to a Commodore port? Never seen one like
this and I don't think
I've heard of one like this. I know there's
Commodore savvy people on this
list and they'll know exactly what it's for. Any
help is appreciated very
much...
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11:45 a.m.
Russ Blakeman wrote:
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found a
stereotypical Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN plug on the end - but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub. I know it's factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded into it.
Anyone know the function of this cable?
This does sound like a serial cable to connect to a modem ... although,
wouldn't a DCE device want a D25 male plug? Well, I guess you can easily
find this out if you test the connectivity of the pins on either end.
I still have my C64 manual at home, so I can look up what you should
expect to see with the serial cable.
regards
-Gunther
12:05 p.m.
Steve brought up a point I didn't think of - that it's probably a 23 pin
d-sub (I didn't count them) and is probably for a monitor.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:45 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is this????
Russ Blakeman wrote:
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found a
stereotypical
Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN
plug on the end -
but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub.
I know it's
factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded
into it.
Anyone know the function of this cable?
This does sound like a serial cable to connect to a modem ... although,
wouldn't a DCE device want a D25 male plug? Well, I guess you can easily
find this out if you test the connectivity of the pins on either end.
I still have my C64 manual at home, so I can look up what you should
expect to see with the serial cable.
regards
-Gunther 
12:53 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is this????
Steve brought up a point I didn't think of - that
it's probably a 23 pin
d-sub (I didn't count them) and is probably for a monitor.
At one point, the Amiga 1084S RGB monitor was so widely used, and the
number of different video port connectors used by Commodore so large, that
many 1084s shipped with 6 or 7 different cables in the box. Mine came that
way, and the extra cables have certainly come in handy as I added VICs and
C-64s to the collection. Why CBM didn't standardize on one or two connector
types and simplify their manufacturing and distribution I'll never know.
Cheers,
Mark.
12:15 p.m.
This does sound like a serial cable to connect to a
modem ... although,
wouldn't a DCE device want a D25 male plug? Well, I guess you can easily
find this out if you test the connectivity of the pins on either end.
I still have my C64 manual at home, so I can look up what you should
expect to see with the serial cable.
Won't work -- common misconception is that the Commodore serial bus connects
things like modems. Presumably it could, but it's normally used for disk
drives and printers. Most Commodore native modems connected to the user port
in some way, either through an RS-232 interface or directly.
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12:14 p.m.
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found a
stereotypical Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN plug on the end - but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub. I know it's factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded into it.
The only Commodore factory cables with 25-pin DSUB connectors are the SX-64
keyboard cables, and the terminal end of the C128D keyboard connector.
However, the SX-64 keyboard cable is 25-pin on both ends, and the 128D
keyboard connector is a part of the keyboard. I've never heard of any others
that Commodore themselves manufactured.
The thing that this sounds most like is a standard X1541 cable but Commodore
never made those themselves. If it is, the connection is between a PC LPT
port and the disk drive.
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-- Proponents of other opinions will be merrily beaten to a bloody pulp. ------
12:41 p.m.
Couldn't be for the LPT port on a PC as it's female and the LPT is also
female. Steve's suggestion of it being a video cable is probably correct -
I'll have to see if it is 23 or 25 pin on the d-sub side.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Cameron Kaiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:15 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is this????
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found a
stereotypical
Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN
plug on the end -
but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub.
I know it's
factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded
into it.
The only Commodore factory cables with 25-pin DSUB connectors are
the SX-64
keyboard cables, and the terminal end of the C128D keyboard connector.
However, the SX-64 keyboard cable is 25-pin on both ends, and the 128D
keyboard connector is a part of the keyboard. I've never heard of
any others
that Commodore themselves manufactured.
The thing that this sounds most like is a standard X1541 cable
but Commodore
never made those themselves. If it is, the connection is between a PC LPT
port and the disk drive.
--
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http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --
Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University *
ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu
-- Proponents of other opinions will be merrily beaten to a
bloody pulp. ------ 
1 p.m.
At 12:41 PM 4/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
Couldn't be for the LPT port on a PC as it's
female and the LPT is also
female. Steve's suggestion of it being a video cable is probably correct -
I'll have to see if it is 23 or 25 pin on the d-sub side.
It could be for an Amiga parallel port, to connect to a 1541 disk drive.
The Amiga's parallel port was bidirectional (allowing things
like the DigiView to feed data into the computer) and several
companies made software and hardware to handle 1541s on the
Amiga. I don't think CBM itself ever did it, though...
- John
1:31 p.m.
Just recounted and it IS a 23 pin d-sub so the winner is Steve for his
description that it is a video cable. Thanks everyone that contributed.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of John Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:00 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is this????
At 12:41 PM 4/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
Couldn't be for the LPT port on a PC as
it's female and the LPT is also
female. Steve's suggestion of it being a video cable is probably
correct -
I'll have to see if it is 23 or 25 pin on the
d-sub side.
It could be for an Amiga parallel port, to connect to a 1541 disk drive.
The Amiga's parallel port was bidirectional (allowing things
like the DigiView to feed data into the computer) and several
companies made software and hardware to handle 1541s on the
Amiga. I don't think CBM itself ever did it, though...
- John
1:57 p.m.
An Amiga computer video cable, to be precise.
--- Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> wrote:
Just recounted and it IS a 23 pin d-sub so the
winner is Steve for his
description that it is a video cable. Thanks
everyone that contributed.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf
Of John Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:00 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is
this????
At 12:41 PM 4/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Couldn't be for the LPT port on a PC as it's
female and the LPT is
also
>female. Steve's suggestion of it being a
video
cable is probably
correct -
>I'll have to see if it is 23 or 25 pin on the
d-sub side.
It could be for an Amiga parallel port, to connect
to a 1541 disk drive.
The Amiga's parallel port was bidirectional
(allowing things
like the DigiView to feed data into the computer)
and several
companies made software and hardware to handle
1541s on the
Amiga. I don't think CBM itself ever did it,
though...
- John
1:27 p.m.
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