28 May
2009
28 May
'09
12:32 p.m.
Hey, all,
I picked up a neat StorageWorks tower on ePay a while back, and decided to hook it up to
my VAX-4000/300 through a HSD05. I went to install the HSD05 and realized that the front
(and rear) bezel locks to the body of the tower, precluding removal of the drives.
<sigh> I don't have that key....
Is this another one of those keys like the XX2247 that fits every PDP-11 front panel lock?
If so, is there anyone who can (a) suggest a source or (b) perhaps offer up such a thing?
Thanks - Ian
PS: this is for a system in my personal collection.
UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are.
Ian S. King, Sr. Vintage Systems Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
http://www.pdpplanet.com<http://www.pdpplanet.org>
28 May
28 May
1:38 p.m.
On May 28, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Ian King wrote:
I picked up a neat StorageWorks tower on ePay a while
back, and
decided to hook it up to my VAX-4000/300 through a HSD05. I went
to install the HSD05 and realized that the front (and rear) bezel
locks to the body of the tower, precluding removal of the drives.
<sigh> I don't have that key....
Is this another one of those keys like the XX2247 that fits every
PDP-11 front panel lock? If so, is there anyone who can (a)
suggest a source or (b) perhaps offer up such a thing?
If it takes the plastic keys used on many VAXen and some PDP-11s
(11/24 and 11/44), if you can find out for sure, I can likely send
you one of those.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
29 May
29 May
10:02 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:38 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: StorageWorks key
On May 28, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Ian King wrote:
My 11/44 uses a barrel key (which now that you mention it ISTR is plastic), but this is a
flat key.
I picked up a neat StorageWorks tower on ePay a
while back, and
decided to hook it up to my VAX-4000/300 through a HSD05. I went
to install the HSD05 and realized that the front (and rear) bezel
locks to the body of the tower, precluding removal of the drives.
<sigh> I don't have that key....
Is this another one of those keys like the XX2247 that fits every
PDP-11 front panel lock? If so, is there anyone who can (a)
suggest a source or (b) perhaps offer up such a thing?
If it takes the plastic keys used on many VAXen and some PDP-11s
(11/24 and 11/44), if you can find out for sure, I can likely send
you one of those.
10:07 a.m.
On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Ian King wrote:
My 11/44 uses a barrel key (which now that you mention it ISTR
is
plastic), but this is a flat key.
Oh, bizarre. I don't know what that key is, then.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I picked up a neat StorageWorks tower on ePay a while
back, and
decided to hook it up to my VAX-4000/300 through a HSD05. I went
to install the HSD05 and realized that the front (and rear) bezel
locks to the body of the tower, precluding removal of the drives.
<sigh> I don't have that key....
Is this another one of those keys like the XX2247 that fits every
PDP-11 front panel lock? If so, is there anyone who can (a)
suggest a source or (b) perhaps offer up such a thing?
If it takes the plastic keys used on many VAXen and some PDP-11s
(11/24 and 11/44), if you can find out for sure, I can likely send
you one of those. 
3:10 p.m.
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Dave McGuire wrote:
On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Ian King wrote:
My 11/44 uses a barrel key (which now that you mention it ISTR
is
plastic), but this is a flat key.
Oh, bizarre. I don't know what that key is, then.
It's about as complex as a CrackerJack padlock key... I may still have
a couple. I'll look tonight.
Doc Shipley
I picked up a neat StorageWorks tower on ePay a while
back, and
decided to hook it up to my VAX-4000/300 through a HSD05. I went
to install the HSD05 and realized that the front (and rear) bezel
locks to the body of the tower, precluding removal of the drives.
<sigh> I don't have that key....
Is this another one of those keys like the XX2247 that fits every
PDP-11 front panel lock? If so, is there anyone who can (a)
suggest a source or (b) perhaps offer up such a thing?
If it takes the plastic keys used on many VAXen and some PDP-11s
(11/24 and 11/44), if you can find out for sure, I can likely send
you one of those. 
11:48 a.m.
My 11/44 uses a barrel key (which now that you mention
it ISTR is plastic),=
but this is a flat key. =20
So presumably it's a a 'Yale type' key (as they're commonly called over
here). A flat key with notches along the top edge to lift the tumblers to
the right height.
I can't believe it's a very complicated or secure lock (cheap locks, with
looser mechanical tolerances are much easier to pick for obvious
reasons). My guess is you could easliy learn to pick it. And once you've
got it open, take the lcok apart and you could probably make a key.
I assuem there's mo other way into the cabinet. One of my machines had
the back cover held on by a lock for which I didn't ahve the key, but
turning the machine on its side revealed 2 metal plates that the rear
cover hookded on to. Unscrewing those alooed me to remvoe the cover
without the key, at which point it ws trivial to dismantle the lock to
make a key.
-tony
1:23 p.m.
On Friday 29 May 2009, Ian King wrote:
My 11/44 uses a barrel key (which now that you mention
it ISTR is
plastic), but this is a flat key.
I'd suggest trying a CH751 (the same flat key that DEC used on a lot of
things, from an 11/780's doors, to large tape libraries).
Pat
--
Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/
The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
3:30 p.m.
Gee, I have a couple of those (hanging off our 11/785s). :-) I'll give it a try -
thanks for the suggestion. -- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Finnegan
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:24 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: StorageWorks key
On Friday 29 May 2009, Ian King wrote:
My 11/44 uses a barrel key (which now that you
mention it ISTR is
plastic), but this is a flat key.
I'd suggest trying a CH751 (the same flat key that DEC used on a lot of
things, from an 11/780's doors, to large tape libraries).
Pat
--
Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/
The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
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