I've used the Asante ones without a hitch for years. No driver problems at all. You just need the Asante driver (last I knew, it was still available on their web site, just burried). The driver hasn't given me any problems up thru OS 7.6.1. I don't know about OS 8+, but any Macs that can use OS 8 have an alternate means in which ethernet can be added. I have used the "Mini" which is the one that needs SCSI Bus power (and so can't work with a Mac Plus), and I have used the "Micro" which is the one that has the HDI-30 connector and is designed for powerbooks. The only problem I have ever had with these is when I dropped one off a desk, it stopped working. Other than that, there was a minor config problem in using one with IPNetRouter, but that was a known issue with IPNR, and IIRC, was actually a problem with IPNR and not with the Asante Driver (they work fine with IPNR, it just needs to be on the local network side, and not the internet side of a dual ethernet firewall/nat setup). I am hoping to lay my hands on a "desktop" version shortly, so I can use one with my Mac Plus (the "desktop" version has an external powersupply and doesn't need the scsi bus power to run the device). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>