The 8700/8800 systems were changed in designation about half-way through their production. The 8700 became the 8810 and the 8800 became the 8820. There was also another set of 88x0 systems that were different internally in that they could be upgraded to more CPUs. All to confuse the customer, I guess. Does the 8700 have the VAX Console? -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/