On 28 Oct, 2006, at 06:51, cctech-request at classiccmp.org
From: "William Donzelli" <wdonzelli at
(Who has at home what might be a collection of
computers in private ownership - unless you know different
as Esther Rantzen used to say on "That's Life").
That is a dangerous claim to make.
But hopefully start an interesting discussion.
Paul Pierce would be laughing.
OK, so how much floor space does his largest computer use?
From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan at
If he meant physically largest,
then I know a guy here in New Jersey who has
a Burroughs mainframe which requires an 18-wheeler truck (or two)
When I moved Flossie we used one articulated lorry (I did not count
and one rigid truck with a tail lift.
And let's not forget Indiana's Jim Curry who
has a vast collect of
The pictures of Cray computers I've seen have no peripherals, just a
CPU, which is
smaller than the fixed part of Flossie. Much more powerful of course
than my Germanium
giant which is about the power of a 6502, though it is slightly
better handling big numbers.
The installation requirements say it needs 700 square feet, though I
have one squeezed into
500 square feet. The other (Arthur) is disassembled, some packed
around Flossie and some in
another part of the barn.
I have an impressive collection of the * smallest *
Very good, the list as a whole covers most machine types. I lost
interest in my mainframes for
a few years and moved onto a UK101 then I changed job and programmed
the Apple ][, //e,
///, Lisa then just about every Mac, and I'm writing this on an Intel
core duo Mac laptop.
> From: "Witchy" <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk
> On Fri, October 27, 2006 6:34 pm, Roger Holmes said:
>> (Who has at home what might be a
collection of the largest
>> computers in private ownership - unless you know different
>> as Esther Rantzen used to say on "That's Life").
> I used to think I did (in the UK), but
that's only based on no web
> evidence found to prove otherwise :) I know there's far bigger
> than mine in Europe and the US.....
> Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
- the UKs biggest home computer collection?
I do not have the largest number of computers, I am asking are the
computers at my home the
largest in a private collection? My machines are not even home
computers, they cost
247,000 pounds new, though I paid 200 pounds for one and 150 for the
slightly smaller one which
included loads of spare parts (almost another computer). They contain
almost no gold, just some
platinum in some relays (which are not part of the logic), hence the
scrap price being so low (they
cost much less than the cost of transporting them, not counting
dismantling which took a week and
reassembly which took several months back when I was in my twenties
and had more energy
and more spare time). Flossie has well over 4,000 printed circuit
boards and weighs about five tons.
She does not require air conditioning, though the seven Ampex TM4 mag
tape drives officially do need it.
She uses 13kVA three phase electricity. I showed some of the
documentation to a young chap recently
and he what he found surprising that the computer comes with a floor
plan in the installation instructions.
I did not show him the details of the floor loading, nor the
requirement for a separate one inch copper
braid wired back to the building's mains power inlet earth connection.