3 May
2001
3 May
'01
4:01 p.m.
Trying to follow the suggested format for alerting the list to an
"unusual" item on eBay. Just listed a very nice TI 980B ..Lots of lights
and switches [no blikenlights however .. it does power up but no action
on the panel]. The disk drive is a pull from a 3380E IBM drive cabinet
and is by far and away the largest I've ever seen .. probably 130+
pounds.
For the HTML impaired among us, item numbers are:
TI 980B 1235346938
IBM drive 1235355979
These were not offered here first ... What is the "going" price for
either?????? eBay, for all it's supposed faults still seems to be the
venue of choice for odd and/or unique items.
Craig
4 May
4 May
6:50 a.m.
Re:
on the panel]. The disk drive is a pull from a 3380E
IBM drive cabinet
and is by far and away the largest I've ever seen .. probably 130+
pounds.
For weight-per-byte, the winner has to be the dual 8" floppy disk
drive for the IBM 5110 / 5120 (possibly used in other IBM computers).
It's a bit larger than a 2-drawer file cabinet, and about 100 to 150 pounds...
all electronics just for the dual 8" floppy drives! A year or so later,
IBM had shrunk the electronics so they and the drives fit into a
14"/14"/14"
cube, roughly.
Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler
7:21 a.m.
Quoting ip500 <ip500(a)home.com>om>:
IBM drive 1235355979
These were not offered here first
No, but I think I remember someone talking about finding the big IBM
drives on this list and even posting those same pictures. Or maybe
that was another list. Or maybe I should lay off the crack...
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
7:35 a.m.
Lay of the crack! Powder is much easier on the memory!! And that was
here, about a month ago. I've got one hanging over my desk on BIG chains
secured to eyebolts into the main joists of the floor above. Good
conversation piece!
Craig
URL for the pix is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1235355979
"Jeffrey S. Sharp" wrote:
Quoting ip500 <ip500(a)home.com>om>:
IBM drive 1235355979
These were not offered here first
No, but I think I remember someone talking about finding the big IBM
drives on this list and even posting those same pictures. Or maybe
that was another list. Or maybe I should lay off the crack...
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu 
9:49 a.m.
ip500 wrote:
Trying to follow the suggested format for alerting the list to an
"unusual" item on eBay. Just listed a very nice TI 980B ..Lots of lights
and switches [no blikenlights however .. it does power up but no action
on the panel]. The disk drive is a pull from a 3380E IBM drive cabinet
and is by far and away the largest I've ever seen .. probably 130+
pounds.
For the HTML impaired among us, item numbers are:
TI 980B 1235346938
IBM drive 1235355979
These were not offered here first ... What is the "going" price for
either?????? eBay, for all it's supposed faults still seems to be the
venue of choice for odd and/or unique items.
Craig
To ebay or not to ebay is not the question. You're obviously in this to
maximize return on an investment, or you would have offered these items
here, first, where you're more likely to find people who can put them to
use, who may actually be looking for these items, as opposed to any
generic nostalgic computer artifact to hang from a rafter. Nothing wrong
with making money, whether it's to support a cocaine habit, or whatever.
You're just not likely to get a lot of sympathy or support when you ask
for free appraisals and such.
Good luck,
jbdigriz
9:42 a.m.
If I am looking for more than an oddball part, like a computer, or a
peripheral.... Ebay is the FIRST place I look. If I am looking for a
particular bracket, for my BA23 case, I'll look here first. If I am
looking for guidance with a bid price, why not ask here?? People here
know what the going rate is for stuff, stuff that I am not as familiar
with.
I would rather see stuff on Ebay, than hear of it being given to
Goodwill, unless it's my Goodwill :-) All to often I see nice stuff
trashed my customers, or parts lost by workers.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
"James B. DiGriz" wrote:
To ebay or not to ebay is not the question. You're
obviously in this to
maximize return on an investment, or you would have offered these items
here, first, where you're more likely to find people who can put them to
use, who may actually be looking for these items, as opposed to any
generic nostalgic computer artifact to hang from a rafter. Nothing wrong
with making money, whether it's to support a cocaine habit, or whatever.
You're just not likely to get a lot of sympathy or support when you ask
for free appraisals and such.
Good luck,
jbdigriz
12:53 p.m.
Chad Fernandez wrote:
If I am looking for more than an oddball part, like a computer, or a
peripheral.... Ebay is the FIRST place I look. If I am looking for a
particular bracket, for my BA23 case, I'll look here first. If I am
looking for guidance with a bid price, why not ask here?? People here
know what the going rate is for stuff, stuff that I am not as familiar
with.
Ok. I give up. ip500 wants my honest opinion? Since I've never seen a
980 on ebay in several yearws of watching, it's worth exactly $9.99 at
the moment, or what ever the current high bid is. An industrial or lab
equipment supplier might ask several thousand for it, if they had it,
but they'd only get that much from a corporate purchaser with a revenue
stream being held up by a broken machine, in an extreme emergency. That
is, somebody they had by the short hairs who was spending someone else's
money. They sure wouldn't pay that much if you just walked in cold
trying to sell it, because it's really an obsolete piece of junk that
will take up valuable storage space, to them.
There you have it: $9.99
Send me your address, Craig, and I'll bill you my usual $50 single-item
appraisal fee. I'll give you a 20% list member discount on an assessment
of the drive's value, if you want that, too. .
I would rather see stuff on Ebay, than hear of it being given to
Goodwill, unless it's my Goodwill :-) All to often I see nice stuff
trashed my customers, or parts lost by workers.
Did I say anything to the contrary? We were talking about a list member,
however.
Regards,
jbdigriz
2:47 p.m.
My point exactly ...who HAS seen a TI 980 sell in the last several
years? And as a consequence of its "relative" rarity ..what is one
worth. As you point out, at the moment it's worth $9.99. eBay .. while
an imperfect marketplace is about as perfect as it gets in the real
world.
That's why I NEVER set reserves on things I market through an auction
format ..it's worth exactly what someone will pay for it .. not what I
or anyone elses appraisal of it may be.
I'd trade it in a minute for a decent condition HP 2100A. Always
had a soft spot for HP stuff.
Craig
"James B. DiGriz" wrote:
Chad Fernandez wrote:
If I am looking for more than an oddball part, like a computer, or a
peripheral.... Ebay is the FIRST place I look. If I am looking for a
particular bracket, for my BA23 case, I'll look here first. If I am
looking for guidance with a bid price, why not ask here?? People here
know what the going rate is for stuff, stuff that I am not as familiar
with.
Ok. I give up. ip500 wants my honest opinion? Since I've never seen a
980 on ebay in several yearws of watching, it's worth exactly $9.99 at
the moment, or what ever the current high bid is. An industrial or lab
equipment supplier might ask several thousand for it, if they had it,
but they'd only get that much from a corporate purchaser with a revenue
stream being held up by a broken machine, in an extreme emergency. That
is, somebody they had by the short hairs who was spending someone else's
money. They sure wouldn't pay that much if you just walked in cold
trying to sell it, because it's really an obsolete piece of junk that
will take up valuable storage space, to them.
There you have it: $9.99
Send me your address, Craig, and I'll bill you my usual $50 single-item
appraisal fee. I'll give you a 20% list member discount on an assessment
of the drive's value, if you want that, too. .
I would rather see stuff on Ebay, than hear of it being given to
Goodwill, unless it's my Goodwill :-) All to often I see nice stuff
trashed my customers, or parts lost by workers.
Did I say anything to the contrary? We were talking about a list member,
however.
Regards,
jbdigriz
5 May
5 May
2:16 a.m.
On Fri, 4 May 2001, ip500 wrote:
My point exactly ...who HAS seen a TI 980 sell in the last several
years? And as a consequence of its "relative" rarity ..what is one
worth. As you point out, at the moment it's worth $9.99. eBay .. while
an imperfect marketplace is about as perfect as it gets in the real
world.
You seem to have hit it right on the head there, which is the reason I
question asking the list to provide an evalution, when members might be
contemplating a bid, or have already put one in. That's a main feature of
an auction, establishing a value, and it's just not in their interest to
circumvent the process.
That's why I NEVER set reserves on things I
market through an auction
format ..it's worth exactly what someone will pay for it .. not what I
or anyone elses appraisal of it may be.
I have no problem with a reserve, in principle. Paying the
fee and possibly turning away bids may be worth the protection against
loss if you're basically a reseller, but that's a case where you already
know at least the wholesale value of the item. When it comes to unique or
hard-to-find items, though, a lot of sellers set a unrealistically high
reserve. One bidder's burning passion does not equate to a general high
demand. In practice, only Ebay benefits from reserves. Possibly newbie
sellers, too, but I think they quickly outgrow them.
I'd trade it in a minute for a decent condition HP
2100A. Always > had a soft spot for HP stuff.
If I run across one, I'll let you know. Somebody else is going to get the
980, but we can probably work something out.
jbdigriz
4 May
4 May
5:39 p.m.
"James B. DiGriz" wrote:
Ok. I give up. ip500 wants my honest opinion? Since
I've never seen a
980 on ebay in several yearws of watching, it's worth exactly $9.99 at
the moment, or what ever the current high bid is. An industrial or lab
equipment supplier might ask several thousand for it, if they had it,
but they'd only get that much from a corporate purchaser with a revenue
stream being held up by a broken machine, in an extreme emergency. That
is, somebody they had by the short hairs who was spending someone else's
money. They sure wouldn't pay that much if you just walked in cold
trying to sell it, because it's really an obsolete piece of junk that
will take up valuable storage space, to them.
There you have it: $9.99
I don't agree with any theoretical "worth" rhetoric. What people want
to know when they ask, is normal street price, for a given condition and
configuration. If I am interested in something on Ebay, but don't
really know what I would expect to pay for it, it would be wise to ask
before bidding too much money. Why would I "buy it now", or be the
winning bid at twice it's normal value? If I pay $100 for a $50 item
does that mean I magically doubled the value of all like items? No! I
paid double, and the seller made out like a bandit! What make the item
a $50 item is that the said item is sold for $50 quite often, when
available. I say, when available, since many of the items concerning
this list, aren't produced in regular production anymore, in many cases.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
9:50 p.m.
Fair market price is typically defined as the price agreeable to a willing
buyer and seller. If the seller just wants to get rid of an item, and all
the buyers are intermediaries who will be selling the item to some third
party, then the sales prices is kind of meaningless, or what I will call
wholesale vs retail.
Thinly traded items have prices that depend more on just who happens to
notice them, and how the first bid is arranged.
To me personally the fair price is my don't care price, ie when I offer
enough that I really don't care if the sellers answer is yes or no, thats
my top bid.
5 May
5 May
3:13 a.m.
Chad Fernandez wrote:
I don't agree with any theoretical "worth" rhetoric. What people want
to know when they ask, is normal street price, for a given condition and
configuration. If I am interested in something on Ebay, but don't
really know what I would expect to pay for it, it would be wise to ask
before bidding too much money. Why would I "buy it now", or be the
winning bid at twice it's normal value? If I pay $100 for a $50 item
does that mean I magically doubled the value of all like items? No! I
paid double, and the seller made out like a bandit! What make the item
a $50 item is that the said item is sold for $50 quite often, when
available. I say, when available, since many of the items concerning
this list, aren't produced in regular production anymore, in many cases.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
I think we're agreement on this. If you really wanted that $50 item
though, you might well pay $100 for it and not consider yourself robbed.
Especially if it was in good shape, operational, with docs and software.
Speaking of availability, a TI-88 came up on Ebay a couple of years ago.
This calc was never produced, only prototypes were made. It was heavily
hyped by TI to the existing TI58/59 user base, though. I predicted to
the seller that it would go for $600-$800. It ended up just shy of $600.
It might have hit my target if I had been able to afford a bid at the
time.
Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to say "cost be damned." I have to
rely on shrewd bidding, sniping (except against other serious collectors
who are likely to trade with me.), trading, dumpster-diving, dumb luck,
etc., and I'm thinking of going into the salvage business myself, just
to get my hands on stuff. And I think these will be just about my last
words on the subject at present.
regards,
jbdigriz
4 May
4 May
10:54 a.m.
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME
I want it so no one else bid okay???!??!??!?!!!
Thanks,
clint
On Fri, 4 May 2001, ip500 wrote:
Trying to follow the suggested format for alerting
the list to an
"unusual" item on eBay. Just listed a very nice TI 980B ..Lots of lights
and switches [no blikenlights however .. it does power up but no action
on the panel]. The disk drive is a pull from a 3380E IBM drive cabinet
and is by far and away the largest I've ever seen .. probably 130+
pounds.
For the HTML impaired among us, item numbers are:
TI 980B 1235346938
IBM drive 1235355979
These were not offered here first ... What is the "going" price for
either?????? eBay, for all it's supposed faults still seems to be the
venue of choice for odd and/or unique items.
Craig
11:11 a.m.
Just kidding :)
But seriously, how bout an EBay posting policy...
If someone calls dibs, nobody else on the list bids
against them...
clint
PS Being a peckerhead as usual :)-
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Clint Wolff (VAX collector) wrote:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME
I want it so no one else bid okay???!??!??!?!!!
Thanks,
clint
On Fri, 4 May 2001, ip500 wrote:
Trying to follow the suggested format for
alerting the list to an
"unusual" item on eBay. Just listed a very nice TI 980B ..Lots of lights
and switches [no blikenlights however .. it does power up but no action
on the panel]. The disk drive is a pull from a 3380E IBM drive cabinet
and is by far and away the largest I've ever seen .. probably 130+
pounds.
For the HTML impaired among us, item numbers are:
TI 980B 1235346938
IBM drive 1235355979
These were not offered here first ... What is the "going" price for
either?????? eBay, for all it's supposed faults still seems to be the
venue of choice for odd and/or unique items.
Craig
11:44 a.m.
Actually the regular posters on COMP.SYS.PS2 already have a
similar understanding. If there's something someone is truly
interested in and wishes to bid for, they post a notice to the group
so that nobody on the group snipes them.
Jeff
Just kidding :)
But seriously, how bout an EBay posting policy...
If someone calls dibs, nobody else on the list bids
against them...
clint
PS Being a peckerhead as usual :)-
--
Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems:
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
noon
Generally I try not to snipe people whom I know are readers of this list,
however lurkers get no such help :-)
Calling 'dibs' however seems akin to a modern day version of the prisoner's
dilemma.
--Chuck
At 07:44 PM 5/4/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Actually the regular posters on COMP.SYS.PS2
already have a
similar understanding. If there's something someone is truly interested
in and wishes to bid for, they post a notice to the group so that nobody
on the group snipes them.
Jeff
Just kidding :)
But seriously, how bout an EBay posting policy...
If someone calls dibs, nobody else on the list bids
against them...
clint
PS Being a peckerhead as usual :)-
--
Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems:
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
1:11 p.m.
Generally I try not to snipe people whom I know are
readers of this list,
however lurkers get no such help :-)
Calling 'dibs' however seems akin to a modern day version of the prisoner's
dilemma.
Half the time I don't even look at the other bidders, or if sniping, may
have placed my bid days ago.
OTOH I don't intentionally step on anybodies bid, ie several items, I bid
where there are no bids.
STuff I really want though, I bid on, and if my friend keeps bidding, well
why the heck are they? Regardless its easier to settle later, after I win
the bid.
5 May
5 May
6:06 p.m.
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Clint Wolff (VAX collector) wrote:
Just kidding :)
But seriously, how bout an EBay posting policy...
If someone calls dibs, nobody else on the list bids
against them...
clint
PS Being a peckerhead as usual :)-
How about avoiding this nonsense and making things available to the list
first before posting them to eBay? It sure would be much nicer. I'd hate
to see ClassicCmp become a damn ad board for eBay.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
6 May
6 May
3:22 a.m.
I think your worrying to much Sellam. Besides, if someone wants to put
something on Ebay then they are going to put it on Ebay, and it won't be
posted here at all. If I'm looking for a Bebop model 10, I would rather
someone let me know one was on Ebay, than not know at all.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Sellam Ismail wrote:
How about avoiding this nonsense and making things
available to the list
first before posting them to eBay? It sure would be much nicer. I'd hate
to see ClassicCmp become a damn ad board for eBay.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
4:58 a.m.
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:
I think your worrying to much Sellam. Besides, if
someone wants to put
something on Ebay then they are going to put it on Ebay, and it won't be
Which would be preferable.
posted here at all. If I'm looking for a Bebop
model 10, I would rather
someone let me know one was on Ebay, than not know at all.
It's called a "search" ;)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
6:25 a.m.
Sellam,
Sellam Ismail wrote:
Yes, but searches don't pick up everything. Occasionally, when I am
browsing, I find stuff that I search for, on a regular basis, but it
didn't come up in my search. The seller either didn't spell something
correctly, or put it in the wrong category, or added a space in between
characters or something. It's nice if I am the only person to find it,
but it isn't nice if I can't find it either!
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Maybe you get all the cool stuff offered to you everyday by your
neighbors, but the pickens are quite thin around here.
I think your worrying to much Sellam. Besides,
if someone wants to put
something on Ebay then they are going to put it on Ebay, and it won't be
Which would be preferable. posted here at all. If I'm looking for a
Bebop model 10, I would rather
someone let me know one was on Ebay, than not know at all.
It's called a "search" ;) 
7:07 a.m.
posted here at all. If I'm looking for a Bebop
model 10, I would rather
someone let me know one was on Ebay, than not know at all.
It's called a "search" ;)
2:08 p.m.
Exactly! You end up searching for all logical variations, which takes
time. Why not take advantage of other people on the list, in helping
you. A lot of people here are on Ebay. Someone else may run across
something you need or want in there own searches, and think it special
enough to post, or maybe they are even the seller.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
"Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" wrote:
Perhaps because it is spelled Bee-bop model 10?
5:55 p.m.
Quoting Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net>et>:
Exactly! You end up searching for all logical
variations, which
takes time.
I agree. I don't think anyone is advocating the advertising of
every C:H:V auction here; I think the idea is that if there is
something unusual or exceptionally rare that someone has found, we
would be better off if we knew about it.
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
10:29 a.m.
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Good point. We should invite all sellers on the eBay
Computers:Hardware:Vintage category to post their ads in CC. Better yet,
let's just write some software that sends automatically a message to CC
for every vintage computer item posted. That way, you won't miss
anything.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
It's
called a "search" ;)
Yes, but searches don't pick up everything. Occasionally, when I am
browsing, I find stuff that I search for, on a regular basis, but it
didn't come up in my search. The seller either didn't spell something
correctly, or put it in the wrong category, or added a space in between
characters or something. It's nice if I am the only person to find it,
but it isn't nice if I can't find it either!
2:10 p.m.
Must you always take everything to the extreme?
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Good point. We should invite all sellers on the eBay
Computers:Hardware:Vintage category to post their ads in CC. Better yet,
let's just write some software that sends automatically a message to CC
for every vintage computer item posted. That way, you won't miss
anything.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
It's
called a "search" ;)
Yes, but searches don't pick up everything. Occasionally, when I am
browsing, I find stuff that I search for, on a regular basis, but it
didn't come up in my search. The seller either didn't spell something
correctly, or put it in the wrong category, or added a space in between
characters or something. It's nice if I am the only person to find it,
but it isn't nice if I can't find it either!
5:22 p.m.
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Must you always take everything to the extreme?
It's not the extreme, but merely the logical conclusion of your line of
reasoning.
> > > It's called a "search"
;)
> >
> > Yes, but searches don't pick up everything. Occasionally, when I am
> > browsing, I find stuff that I search for, on a regular basis, but it
> > didn't come up in my search. The seller either didn't spell something
> > correctly, or put it in the wrong category, or added a space in between
> > characters or something. It's nice if I am the only person to find it,
> > but it isn't nice if I can't find it either!
>
> Good point. We should invite all sellers on the eBay
> Computers:Hardware:Vintage category to post their ads in CC. Better yet,
> let's just write some software that sends automatically a message to CC
> for every vintage computer item posted. That way, you won't miss
> anything.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
7:40 p.m.
characters or
something. It's nice if I am the only person to find it,
but it isn't nice if I can't find it either!
Good point. We should invite all sellers on the eBay
10:49 p.m.
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
Don't be such a dick, commentary on the issue far outweighs any actual
posting, go elsewhere to find a problem.
Might as well complain now and cut a big fart over it before a flood of
eBay auction postings start showing up.
There's a time to be nice, and a time to be a dick, and on this issue I
choose to be a heat-seeking moisture missile.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
characters or something. It's nice if I am the
only person to find it,
but it isn't nice if I can't find it either!
Good point. We should invite all sellers on the eBay
7 May
7 May
3:23 a.m.
New subject: Ebay ads on classicmp
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
Don't be such a dick, commentary on the issue far outweighs any actual
posting, go elsewhere to find a problem.
Might as well complain now and cut a big fart over it before a flood of
eBay auction postings start showing up.
There's a time to be nice, and a time to be a dick, and on this issue I
choose to be a heat-seeking moisture missile.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
In the absence of procrustean rules and moderation, which are the last
things I want to see here, I agree with Mike on this. It can at least
provide some positive incentive.
I do concur with your general premise. I'm sure most posters of Ebay ads
to various mailing lists, Usenet, etc. are trying to be helpful, but more than
the odd relvant notice or two amounts to shilling for Ebay sellers, and
has nothing to do with the purpose of the list. I hate to use the
"s" word, because it has come to mean just something that annoys
somebody, but it has the potential to be a DOS attack, whether intended or
not. I certainly don't benefit from it, and I don't think most anyone else
here does, either.
There are discussion boards on Ebay for this kind of thing. I would
encourage people to use them. And encourage Ebay to come up with a more
intelligent or useful search engine,
jbdigriz
characters or something. It's nice if I am the
only person to find it,
but it isn't nice if I can't find it either!
Good point. We should invite all sellers on the eBay
6 May
6 May
4:58 a.m.
How about avoiding this nonsense and making things
available to the list
first before posting them to eBay? It sure would be much nicer. I'd hate
to see ClassicCmp become a damn ad board for eBay.
In case you haven't noticed this could be easily known as the classic
cheapskate computer list, which I of course am proud to be a member of. ;)
I don't want to see ebay ads here either, EXCEPT for anything genuinely
unusual, then I would like to know about it, call dibs and have the rest of
you not bid. ;)
5:05 a.m.
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
Aren't we all? And isn't that why we collect classic computers in the
first place, because we couldn't afford them when they were new?
How about
avoiding this nonsense and making things available to the list
first before posting them to eBay? It sure would be much nicer. I'd hate
to see ClassicCmp become a damn ad board for eBay.
In case you haven't noticed this could be easily known as the classic
cheapskate computer list, which I of course am proud to be a member of. ;) I don't want to see ebay ads here either, EXCEPT
for anything
genuinely unusual, then I would like to know about it, call dibs and
have the rest of you not bid. ;)
I don't care if someone points out an odd auction here or there, but I do
object to people using CC to advertise eBay ads. That's what the search
function is for. If you want to advertise on CC, it should be to solicit
offers directly.
I want to say something here that includes the word "carpetbagger" but I'm
afraid it would be too incendiary.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
11:36 a.m.
Quoting Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com>om>:
Aren't we all? And isn't that why we collect
classic computers
in the first place, because we couldn't afford them when they
were new?
Not all of us were *alive* when the computers in our interest area
were new!
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
7 May
7 May
2:23 a.m.
At 11:06 PM 5/5/01 -0700, Sellam Ismail wrote:
How about avoiding this nonsense and making things
available to the list
first before posting them to eBay? It sure would be much nicer. I'd hate
to see ClassicCmp become a damn ad board for eBay.
Yeah, what we really need are more college-beer-drinking debates
about economics and value and markets and "street" price.
I don't really know what "making things available" could mean except
more irrelevant discussion and accidental "whoops I meant that
to be my private bid" posts.
Posting "first taker gets it" messages only rewards those of us without
a life who can afford to read e-mail all day. Items disappear
in minutes this way.
There once was a mailing list operated by someone here for
auction and for-sale announcements - where did it go?
- John
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cisin＠xenosoft.com -
cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com -
fernande＠internet1.net -
foo＠siconic.com -
ip500＠home.com -
jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org -
jfoust＠threedee.com -
jhellige＠earthlink.net -
jss＠ou.edu -
mikeford＠socal.rr.com -
ss＠allegro.com -
vaxman＠qwest.net