::> ... my lovely 128DCR ... ::Did Commodore Retire ? Oh yeah. Sorry :-) DCR = D Cost Reduced The 128D(CR) are the 128s with integrated 1571 disk drives. The D series have flat 128 electronics (16K VDC RAM, 6581 SID) and the 1571 on a separate board. Externally, they have a plastic shell. They are virtually unknown in North America. The DCR series, which came later, are a one-board design with the upgraded 128 ROMs, 64K VDC RAM and the 8580 HMOS-2 SID. Externally, the shell is metal. They are the only type of D series 128s sold in America, but they are also in Europe in small quantities (later German 128Ds, for example, are really 128DCRs with the German-language EPROM). Despite the name, for my money, the DCR seems to be more solidly built. The metal case holds my 1702 monitor (heavy!) without so much as a flex or even a buckle.