In a message dated 7/31/2002 2:01:18 PM Central Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: << Does anyone here still use their old (say pre-1990) Macintosh as a regular practice? Sellam Ismail Well, it's not old enough, but I finally had success in getting a Quadra 800 with PPC card up and running on my network and through the router for net access. Pretty neat machine. I presume earlier macs with ethernics and system 7.x would be similar. NOTE: if you use ASANTE NICs, I found out that they don't always like to establish a connection with a 100mb hub/router. To get this mac working, I had to plug it into a 10mb hub, and then into the router.