1 Dec
2008
1 Dec
'08
11:47 p.m.
2 Dec
2 Dec
12:02 a.m.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:47 PM, ch <fu3.org at gmail.com> wrote:
Wow!
I have an original Personal Software manual and TRS-80 disc, but
nothing for the PDP-11. As I've posted before, I saw "Starcross" on
8" floppy hanging on the wall of the local DEC store, c. 1981, but
didn't own any DEC equipment, yet.
Now if we can only get a glimpse at the image of the Infocom file
server that came to light a few months ago. I'm sure there are some
amazing source goodies on that.
-ethan
6:22 a.m.
From: "ch":
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:47 PM
Cool!
Did anyone else have trouble with this link? I get a message from
Acrobat Reader (5.1.0) about how the file is damaged and cannot be
repaired.
(I was able to run pdf2ps on it, then print the postscript back to
PDF to get a file that works, but is about 8X bigger than the
original.)
Vince
6:27 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Vincent Slyngstad <vrs at msn.com> wrote:
From: "ch":
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:47 PM
Cool!
Did anyone else have trouble with this link? I get a message from Acrobat
Reader (5.1.0) about how the file is damaged and cannot be repaired.
Nope. No problems on my end. Just in case you didn't get a good
download, my file is 2004915 bytes, MD5 (Zork_PDP_11.pdf) =
293b73da33d74c9ea902b7356e75332b
-ethan
6:44 a.m.
From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:27 AM
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Vincent Slyngstad
wrote:
Mine has the same size and MD5, so I guess it must be something about
Reader 5.1.0. Maybe I'll get ambitious and try it downstairs with the
newer (slower) version of Reader.
Thanks!
Vince
Did anyone else have trouble with this link? I
get a message from
Acrobat
Reader (5.1.0) about how the file is damaged and cannot be repaired.
Nope. No problems on my end. Just in case you didn't get a good
download, my file is 2004915 bytes, MD5 (Zork_PDP_11.pdf) =
293b73da33d74c9ea902b7356e75332b 
6:55 a.m.
Vincent Slyngstad wrote:
Mine has the same size and MD5, so I guess it must be
something about
Reader 5.1.0. Maybe I'll get ambitious and try it downstairs with the
newer (slower) version of Reader.
Seems to work fine here with kpdf - I thought I had Acrobat v5 on here too,
but it looks like I ditched it (I definitely don't want to install a more
recent version - too darn bloated!)
7:20 a.m.
At 6:44 AM -0800 12/2/08, Vincent Slyngstad wrote:
Mine has the same size and MD5, so I guess it must be
something about
Reader 5.1.0. Maybe I'll get ambitious and try it downstairs with the
newer (slower) version of Reader.
Most likely the issue is the version you're using. It works just
fine in Adobe Acrobat 8.1.3 Professional on my Mac.
Now if someone could just find a disk image of the software!
Zane
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9:47 a.m.
On 2 Dec 2008 at 7:20, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Most likely the issue is the version you're using.
It works just
fine in Adobe Acrobat 8.1.3 Professional on my Mac.
Smaller, faster Foxit reader works just fine--I haven't tried
Ghostscript/Gsview. I don't even have Acrobat reader on my system.
Cheers,
Chuck
2 Dec
2 Dec
7:16 a.m.
This is awesome, so many memories of that game.
The PDF worked fine here.
I'm curious if anyone on the list has a copy of the Zork source code circa 1976?
If nothing exists from that period, I have a copy from Vax/Vms of that era (in fortran),
but I only have the printout, the dtext files did not survive
One of the rumors about the version I have is that it was supposedly able to tell you
exactly where errors were in the code (if you mis-entered it), by line and segment.
I have printouts of various code from 1976,
including Zork, Adventure, Trek5, Trek7, Castle, and Rogue.
OCR'ing this stuff is a massive nightmare, as DEC line printer fonts are horrible.
esp "0" vs "O", and I vs 1 vs l, even reading my eye is tough...
Plus, some of it being pre fortran-77 and the vms weirdness of the time makes it next to
impossible to transcode...
Dan.
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:47:42 +0100
From: fu3.org at gmail.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: PDP-11 Zork Manual: Save $2,348.31
http://inventory.getlamp.com/2008/11/30/pdp-11-zork-manual-save-234831/
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7:24 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com> wrote:
This is awesome, so many memories of that game.
So true.
The PDF worked fine here.
It sounds like a problem with ancient PDF readers. I'm using an
up-to-date one and had no issues.
I'm curious if anyone on the list has a copy of
the Zork source code circa 1976?
If nothing exists from that period, I have a copy from Vax/Vms of that era (in fortran),
but I only have the printout, the dtext files did not survive
I may have ancient FORTRAN source, but Bob Supnik himself posted (on
trailingedge) the real MDL sources he wrote the FORTRAN version from
(his files are identical to the ones I was sent by one of the original
Implementors in 1992, the ones I wrote ZDungeon in Inform 6 from).
One of the rumors about the version I have is that it
was supposedly able to tell you
exactly where errors were in the code (if you mis-entered it), by line and segment.
Hmm... I am unfamiliar with that "feature".
I have printouts of various code from 1976,
including Zork, Adventure, Trek5, Trek7, Castle, and Rogue.
OCR'ing this stuff is a massive nightmare, as DEC line printer fonts are horrible.
esp "0" vs "O", and I vs 1 vs l, even reading my eye is tough...
Plus, some of it being pre fortran-77 and the vms weirdness of the time makes it next to
impossible to transcode...
I think it would be strange for 1976-era FORTRAN to have VMSisms since
that predates the 11/780, but I'm sure there could be plenty of
DECisms from FORTRAN on RSTS/E or RSX-11.
-ethan
7:38 a.m.
One of the
rumors about the version I have is that it was supposedly able to tell you
exactly where errors were in the code (if you mis-entered it), by line and segment.
Hmm... I am unfamiliar with that "feature". Plus, some of
it being pre fortran-77 and the vms weirdness of the time makes it next to impossible to
transcode...
I think it would be strange for 1976-era FORTRAN to have VMSisms since
that predates the 11/780, but I'm sure there could be plenty of
DECisms from FORTRAN on RSTS/E or RSX-11.
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