19 Oct
2020
19 Oct
'20
6:13 p.m.
Since I'm a bit short of change I thought I'd pass this along.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-1-Original-1976-Computer-System-1st-Steve-Wo…
Will
"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"The names of global variables should start with// " --?https://isocpp.org
19 Oct
19 Oct
6:23 p.m.
this has been on ebay for many months
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:13 PM Will Cooke via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Since I'm a bit short of change I thought I'd
pass this along.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-1-Original-1976-Computer-System-1st-Steve-Wo…
Will
"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing
left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de
Saint-Exupery
"The names of global variables should start with// " -- https://isocpp.org
6:35 p.m.
On 10/19/20 6:13 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
Since I'm a bit short of change I thought I'd
pass this along.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-1-Original-1976-Computer-System-1st-Steve-Wo…
I've seen that one before. With Mr.Jobs no longer among the quick, I
think that some of the mystique has faded by now.
--Chuck
6:53 p.m.
Since I'm a bit short of change I thought I'd pass this along.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-1-Original-1976-Computer-System-1st-
Steve-Wozniak-designed-computer-
and/174195921349?hash=item288ee2d1c5:g:UNoAAOSwWqtdrkDz
Will
Seller isn't serious. I've made many good offers up to and including the full
retail price of $666 and they have all been turned down... Oh well...
-Ali
7:50 p.m.
He probably had to pay 5% sales tax on it. That would come out to
699.30, so offer him an even $700 and he'll probably take it.
C
On 10/19/2020 9:53 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Since I'm a bit short of change I thought I'd pass this along.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-1-Original-1976-Computer-System-1st-
Steve-Wozniak-designed-computer-
and/174195921349?hash=item288ee2d1c5:g:UNoAAOSwWqtdrkDz
Will
Seller isn't serious. I've made many good offers up to and including the full
retail price of $666 and they have all been turned down... Oh well...
-Ali
8:05 p.m.
He probably had to pay 5% sales tax on it. That would
come out to
699.30, so offer him an even $700 and he'll probably take it.
C
No. Sales tax is paid by the buyer. At least that is how eBay is working in CA. If I buy
something for $10 my final price is $11 tax included. eBay then pays the sales tax to the
state on behalf of the seller. Sales tax is passed on straight to buyers like anywhere
else.
-Ali
8:39 p.m.
> He probably had to pay 5% sales tax on it. That
would come out to
> 699.30, so offer him an even $700 and he'll probably take it.
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, Ali via cctalk wrote:
No. Sales tax is paid by the buyer. At least that is
how eBay is working in CA. If I buy something for $10 my final price is $11 tax included.
eBay then pays the sales tax to the state on behalf of the seller. Sales tax is passed on
straight to buyers like anywhere else.
I think that Chris' point is that the ORIGINAL total gross amount for the
purchase was $699.30 (including the tax) Therefore, it might be a deal
breaker whether you also reimburse what he had paid in sales tax.
However, this is not the original owner. He got it USED. He probably
didn't pay the sales tax, AND, being a used computer, he probably paid
less than retail.
He got it in Montreal. Was 5% the sales tax rate in Montreal at the time?
Also, in your offers, did you include the $1 that he is demanding for
shipping? (Although he states that he will not ship it)
Keep in mind that it is out of warranty.
It is no longer supported.
It is slow, without much memory.
It doesn't meet current FCC specs (unshielded wood case)
The software hasn't been updated in a long time.
None of the current retail software will run on it.
He probably doesn't even have an anti-virus program on it.
It is even starting to be difficult to get diskettes for it.
(which isn't too serious, because it has no drives!)
It requires an analog composite monitor.
Is the IEC power receptacle original equipment?
The documentation is "digital copies", instead of the original books.
And, he is trying to get MORE THAN RETAIL for it!
9:45 p.m.
Heh, all very jolly. Thanks everyone for reminding me... of my personal Apple I story.
http://everist.org/NobLog/20181001_missing_wave.htm
Guy
At 08:39 PM 19/10/2020 -0700, you wrote:
> He
probably had to pay 5% sales tax on it. That would come out to
> 699.30, so offer him an even $700 and he'll probably take it.
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, Ali via cctalk wrote:
No. Sales tax is paid by the buyer. At least that
is how eBay is working in CA. If I buy something for $10 my final price is $11 tax
included. eBay then pays the sales tax to the state on behalf of the seller. Sales tax is
passed on straight to buyers like anywhere else.
I think that Chris' point is that the ORIGINAL total gross amount for the
purchase was $699.30 (including the tax) Therefore, it might be a deal
breaker whether you also reimburse what he had paid in sales tax.
However, this is not the original owner. He got it USED. He probably
didn't pay the sales tax, AND, being a used computer, he probably paid
less than retail.
He got it in Montreal. Was 5% the sales tax rate in Montreal at the time?
Also, in your offers, did you include the $1 that he is demanding for
shipping? (Although he states that he will not ship it)
Keep in mind that it is out of warranty.
It is no longer supported.
It is slow, without much memory.
It doesn't meet current FCC specs (unshielded wood case)
The software hasn't been updated in a long time.
None of the current retail software will run on it.
He probably doesn't even have an anti-virus program on it.
It is even starting to be difficult to get diskettes for it.
(which isn't too serious, because it has no drives!)
It requires an analog composite monitor.
Is the IEC power receptacle original equipment?
The documentation is "digital copies", instead of the original books.
And, he is trying to get MORE THAN RETAIL for it!
11:13 p.m.
I think that Chris' point is that the ORIGINAL
total gross amount for
the
purchase was $699.30 (including the tax) Therefore, it might be a deal
breaker whether you also reimburse what he had paid in sales tax.
However, this is not the original owner. He got it USED. He probably
didn't pay the sales tax, AND, being a used computer, he probably paid
less than retail.
He got it in Montreal. Was 5% the sales tax rate in Montreal at the
time?
That was my rational as well. He actually got it for "free" (well as a
trade-in for an Apple II for which he charged handsomely I suppose). Also as
a retailer he was exempt from sales tax until he resold it. Hence sales tax
should not be an issue here at all.
Also, in your offers, did you include the $1 that he is demanding for
shipping? (Although he states that he will not ship it)
He is willing to deliver it and even bring Corey Cohen (maybe a name known
to Apple guys? I am not familiar with him) if you pay travel cost. I am
wondering what is the cost of travel via mule for two male adults these
days? He would of course have to send the system next day air priority as I
would not want to get any mule hair on the fine wooden case.
Keep in mind that it is out of warranty.
Yes,
but eBay is willing to sell me a "square trade" warranty. So I should
be all set.
It is no longer supported.
See above
It is slow, without much memory.
It isn't
that bad. 640K is more than enough for anyone. This thing can be
expanded to 48K so about 1/13 of that so I should be okay.
It doesn't meet current FCC specs (unshielded wood
case)
Does this even matter anymore? Used to be you had to worry about
interference with your TVs but I run a Class A LJ 5500 printer at home and
haven't seen any issues yet...
The software hasn't been updated in a long time.
None of the current retail software will run on it.
He probably doesn't even have an anti-virus program on it.
It is even starting to be difficult to get diskettes for it.
(which isn't too serious, because it has no drives!)
As you point out it
doesn't come with any drives so none of the above really
factor in the "offer" decision.
It requires an analog composite monitor.
A
"Sony TV-115, as recommended by Steve Jobs" comes with the system
Is the IEC power receptacle original equipment?
Yes and has been recently reinforced with more glue per the description
The documentation is "digital copies",
instead of the original books.
That is a deal killer for me. Next you are going to
tell me it doesn't even
come with the original box and retail packaging!
And, he is trying to get MORE THAN RETAIL for it!
Well you can't blame a fellow for trying.... :D
-Ali
20 Oct
20 Oct
7:21 a.m.
m?n 2020-10-19 klockan 20:13 -0500 skrev Will Cooke via cctalk:
Since I'm a bit short of change I thought I'd
pass this along.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-1-Original-1976-Computer-System-1st-Steve-Wo…
Will
i didn't check out how many zeroes were in the dollar amount soo..
13 millions ??? ohh 1.5 x 10^6 .... OH YEAH
the seller is obviously not dependent on getting it sold...
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