At 06:23 PM 1/13/99 +1, you wrote: Not high quality graphics, just graphics. a 3 year old, for example, who has yet to learn to read (not Ward, of course 8^), would find a MS-DOS based computer, for example, pretty useless. Simply because the combinations of letters has no significance to the kid. Give the kid a basic mac, however, and the kid can see a picture of the Rabbit from Reader Rabbit and understand that clicking on it will start the Reader Rabbit program. Meanwhile, a 14 year old may not be *happy* with an MS-DOS based XT/AT, but they can make use of it, writing papers, calling BBSes/internet shell accounts, writing programs. As I said, your teenager may tell you how much they need that T-1 and SVGA to write their book report, but they really just want to access porno web sites. (I speak from experience, having been a teenager once.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/