From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> Ah well, problem solved then. to one of my PETs via the cassette port, and from there it would be trivial to get to a PC, but I'm hoping there's an easier way. interface one of the aftermarket IEEE488 drives to the Pet with some trivial hardware, and then interface it to the PC, and just write a file system for it. Well, no, I wasn't thinking disk-to-disk: I do; as well as Centronics parallel & a P-S converter. As a matter of fact, I archive PC BIOS settings this way when setting up a new system: Plug a P-S converter into the printer port, connect the serial to a laptop, press PrintScreen on each BIOS page and suck it up on the laptop; format, print & save. And speaking of kludges, how's this: I have a client who periodically needs to get data off the network to a standalone separate computer; trouble is, the data is only available on an inquiry screen and corporate guidelines do not permit any foreign S/W on the NT client nor any attachments to the network. So what I did was connect serial-out of the standalone to a serial to PC keyboard converter, serial-in to the client serial-out, and direct client printer O/P to the serial port. The standalone goes through its list of accounts, sends out each account number and the code to bring up the inquiry screen on the serial port (which the client sees as keyboard input), waits a second for the screen to come up, sends a code to print the screen and sucks it back in on the serial port for de-formatting and storing. Slow and ugly, but kind of elegant in its kludginess... That did occur to me 'cause I just happen to have one, but I think Altzheimer's would have taken over by the time THAT project was finished... (Apple and Commodore). That's kind of what I gathered from the previous thread; just thought I'd double check. a few of them. I patched PC-Write to run on it, but never came up with anything else to do with it. Eventually I gave one to Toshiba's MRI division, because they couldn't get one throught their main corporation. Well, it runs dBase II and 123 quite nicely, and I used something called SED for text editing, but even with those excellent expensive 640K 96TPI diskettes one does get used to hard disks. Mind you with all the CD-ROM swapping these days it sometimes seems that we've gone back to the dual-floppy days; thank goodness there is software to put those CD-ROMs on HD. Hate to toss it, seems like the 96TPI drives might be useful some day, it certainly is well built and I happen to have lots of docs, but alas... You haven't run across the CP/M86 for it by any chance? - -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com