The problem is that these requires (obviously) that the disk controller can read the data off the disk, at least at the bit/byte level. And Apple

have always used GCR (Group Code Recording) which is incompatible with the FM (single density) or MFM (double density) recording systems used by

most other manufacturers. I don't know if the Lisa uses GCR encoding, but

since the Apple ][ and Macs do, it's a reasonable bet that the Lisa does likewise. So, alas, the PC's disk controller can't read bytes off Lisa disks. So there's no way to make a copy using a PC.