In a message dated 8/10/01 12:50:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: Actually the Salvation Army stores that I have found around PA have been quite good! One can usually find Apple, Tandy, Commodore, and the usual misc PC stuff there. A lot of it is over priced (Commodore 1541 $100???) but there are times when you can find a good deal like the Apple //e I picked up with a color monitor and 2 drives for $9.99.. Never had any luck with Goodwill either. -Linc Fessenden In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.