Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
  On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
 > >>    And one is in the possession of
my acquaintance Peter Lothberg,
> >> unless that's who you're talking about in the last paragraph.  (he
> >> has done a lot of work for Cisco)
 >
 > Mm-hmm.
 >
 > He was one of cisco's first customers in Europe.  His friend, the
 > owner of XKL, co-founded cisco Systems.  Notice that I didn't use
 > *anyone's* name who has not made ownership of a Toad-1 public
 > knowledge. 
    As far as I'm aware, it is public knowledge.  At least he never
 treated it as much of a secret. 
A shortie on Peter. You can see parts of his PDP-10 collection here:
http://www.stupi.se/Bilder/pdp-10/index.html
Stupi is Peter's company where he do some fun stuff.
I don't think his Toad is on right now, but he have an SC30 that is.
  ncp tell sol sho exec 
Node summary as of 14-JAN-09 10:41:34
Executor node = 59.10 (SOL)
    Identification = Systems Concepts SF CA USA - SC30M - DN-20 4.0
    State = On, Active links = 0
  ncp tell toad1 sho exec 
NCP -- Show failed,
Listener connect failed, node unreachable
And I'm not aware that it's a kept secret either. But then again, Peter
is not exactly the guy who walks around boasting about it either.
        Johnny