In my humble opinion, it must be parted in 5 2-rack kits, and distribuited among brazilian USERS. This is something VERY VERY VERY RARE in Brazil, there is no why to keep a system this size locked behind a glass wall. And remembering, there is NO computer museum in Brazil which is sufficiently backed by our computer companies. There is the "museu do computador" but mostly no financial contribuitions, please correct me if I'm wrong.

It depends on what they collect. I know many of them, there are lots and lots. And I'm the ONLY one who had dec gear in the past, and no dec gear in the present. I believe Jay was contacted by more than 2 collectors (me and the curator of the "museu do Computador")...But not THAT many with space and resources to have a two-rack computer at home. Of course, these are only sugestions. I have no right to decide the future of this darn nice computer. --- Enviado do meu Motorola PT550 Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Donzelli" <wdonzelli at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:23 AM Subject: Re: pdp(s) in brazil (picture)

By the way, take a look of my website: www.museudocomputador.com.br next month I will upload a new with 3D etc. Take a look at youtube : museu do Computador it is me in many TVs in Brazil. I have more them 10.000 pcs in my warehouses. AppleI, AppleII,Newton, Amiga Vic20, 64, Amigas, osbornes, Kaypro, 5.000 books about tech. 2012/9/27 Jose carlos Valle <josecvalle at gmail.com> -- * * * * * * https://picasaweb.google.com/106104991898610117718/Desktop#5762470482731194…

An amazing photograph! Are there enough people close enough to each other for them to get together and preserve it as a whole? It would seem a shame to split it up, and it really should be on show. Regards Rob and in curator future glass if

Subject: Re: pdp(s) in brazil (picture) In my humble opinion, it must be parted in 5 2-rack kits, and distribuited among brazilian USERS. This is something VERY VERY VERY RARE in Brazil, there is no why to keep a system this size locked behind a glass wall. <<<< and its backup (3 racks each) and the four to the right are probably 3 identical ?process control? (non-general purpoe) setups. Thus it will probably not realistically make 5x2 rack systems. The difference between the two left-hand systems is probably something to do with the switchover - in the picture the right hand one of the two is "live". The third rack from the right is the enigma in terms of configuration - It must be shared peripherals for the three single-rack processors but how it is switched between them is not fully clear other than that the top panel on this rack at least indicates the status and might do the switching. Are the row of grey cabinets (whatever they are) to the right part of the complete system and what about the mid-height communications cabinet (3 modems at the bottom?) between the 11s and the grey stuff? Pity that fish-eye lens (or, perhaps, the digitising) has lost focus or resolution or both. Andy

On 27 September 2012 09:09, Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> wrote: I think I've just had 'a moment' :) -- adrian/witchy Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection? www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk

On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Dave McGuire wrote: Depends.... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

On 09/27/2012 07:40 PM, Adrian Graham wrote: Whores, the lot of 'em. Bet they eat McDonald's. ;) Absolutely. When computing had STYLE. (GANGNAM STYLE!) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

On 9/28/2012 2:20 AM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote: But why does a phone need it? Ben.

Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote: ben wrote: A cell phone needs a baseband processor with significant amount of compute power (much more than e.g. a PDP-11) to handle the voice codec functions (compression and decompression), and the OTA protocol (e.g., GSM). In most phones the baseband processor also provides GPS location services. Beyond that, cell phones usually have a separate application processor. For "dumb phones" the application processor only has to provide a fairly simple user interface, so not much compute power is necessary. For smart phones the application processor is usually quite powerful. An example of why that is useful is the GPS navigation applications, which provide real time 2D and 3D mapping, turn-by-turn directions with speech synthesis, and in some cases, speech recognition. There is undoubtedly some software bloat resulting in the phone needing more powerful processors than would otherwise be required, just as is true on desktop computers. However, there are legitimate reasons for wanting a very powerful application processor in a phone, other than just eye candy and bloat. Eric

"So that it can be FASTER!" I don't WANT voices to be faster -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com

On 9/28/2012 11:54 AM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote: I only borrow one to keep from getting lost in shopping malls. As a side issue is software better than hardware? Other than the fact that Zillions of users have to share the same signal could have it been done just in analog the phone and communications part. I like to be away from the computer most of the time. The only real high tech item I have is a Kindle (I just use the PC for mail, surfing and few low power games - 386 stuff). and that is to read a few books away from my computer. Novels rather than say data books. It is too hard to use the kindle for a large PDF like The TTL data book for design ... . Ben.

On 9/28/2012 1:20 PM, Eric Smith wrote: While I started this topic mostly about all the features a cell phone have extra, just what is meant by processing power here. Bigger address space? Faster data streams? Number crunching? Memory access speed? Ben. PS: If you want to talk more, give me all call* * As soon as I can find more string and the other soup can.

On 9/28/2012 9:15 PM, Eric Smith wrote: Well I guess that just leaves two cpu sizes. Small 1 chippers under 64Kb of memory, or full blown systems. Ben.

On 9/27/2012 1:09 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: I was thinking the same thing - "Nice Racks!" Oh. Wait. That's messed up... Rob.

Does not look to PC05's to me. What does bug me a bit is the unusual panel above the consoles of the 3 rightmost consoles. It looks like it is a single panel? And what about the panels with the red/yellow lights/buttons? Ed -- Dit is een HTML vrije email / This is an HTML free email. Zeg NEE tegen de 'slimme' meter.