4 Apr
2004
4 Apr
'04
10:31 a.m.
I've been contacted by a credit union in southern California that has a
Honeywell DPS-6 among some other stuff.
The list includes:
Honeywell DPS-6
Spectralogic ST865 tape drive
Honeywell-Bull tape drive (in a large cabinet)
Something with model number B01730 (the only information I have on this)
AlphaServer 2100 (225Mhz, .5GB RAM, (5) RZ28 HD, (6) VT320, TSZ70)
Very large UPS (two racks, lots of batteries)
The location is City of Commerce, California (south Los Angeles).
The Honeywell DPS-6 is the coolest member of this lot. I would not mind
having it but for a couple issues, primarily my lack of time for
embarking on a long-distance haul and my desire to rid myself of large
things at this point as opposed to acquiring them. And I already have
one, though it's in rough shape.
I'm going to give the Computer History Museum first dibs on the DPS-6.
The rest of the stuff is up for grabs. The company just wants it hauled
off and they need it gone within a month or so.
In case the CHM does not want the DPS-6 but you do, let me know. GCOS
(the OS for the DPS-6) was inspired by Multics. Some information here:
http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?GCOS
...and here:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/febcm/english/gcos_6_products.htm
So it could be a fun machine to hack on if you have the room.
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4 Apr
4 Apr
5:35 p.m.
In case the CHM does not want the DPS-6 but you do, let
me know. GCOS
(the OS for the DPS-6) was inspired by Multics. Some information here:
http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?GCOS
Keep in mind that there are different flavors of GCOS, with probably
the main thing in common being the letters "GCOS". Interesting link
above, it lists GCOS-64 as being inspired by Multics, and was a
32-bit OS. GCOS-6 is totally different and for the 16-bit systems.
...and here:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/febcm/english/gcos_6_products.htm
So it could be a fun machine to hack on if you have the room.
What I'd *really* like is to get my hands on the DPS-6 emulator that
runs on at least HP-UX 8 (HP 9000-750). Just over ten years I helped
move setup from DPS-6's to such 4 HP 9000-750's running the emulator
for most things.
I'd be even more interested in a DPS-8 emulator with a copy of
GCOS-8, as I used to work as a Systems Analyst on 4 CPU DPS-8
installation.
Zane
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9:15 p.m.
I'd be even more interested in a DPS-8 emulator
with a copy of
GCOS-8,
This would be a serious challenge - the hardware must be the extreme of a
CISC having:
extremely complex address modes that exceed even those of a VAX; and
"EIS" instructions that are close to hardware COBOL.
Interrupts only (potentially) enabled on odd(?) addressed instructions
Getting and configuring a copy of GCOS-8 might also be tricky
My experience was with GCOS-3 the predecessor of 8 ... extremely stable once
the (necessary) user-written modules were well debugged - extremely unstable
until then
This may well mean that the OS stability will also depend critically on very
detailed accuracy of the emulation.
Andy
6:48 p.m.
let us know if it is available. it would go wonderful here in the
ge/honeywell/bull display here in the museum in Arizona ( home of the ge
computer department in the old days.
no, gecos also called gcos after the honeywell GE combine was not based on
multix gecos predated it as far as I know... gecos was a batch system with
an interactive front end...
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
coury house / smecc
5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
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Subject: Honeywell DPS-6 and other stuff
I've been contacted by a credit union in southern California that has a
Honeywell DPS-6 among some other stuff.
The list includes:
Honeywell DPS-6
Spectralogic ST865 tape drive
Honeywell-Bull tape drive (in a large cabinet)
Something with model number B01730 (the only information I have on this)
AlphaServer 2100 (225Mhz, .5GB RAM, (5) RZ28 HD, (6) VT320, TSZ70)
Very large UPS (two racks, lots of batteries)
The location is City of Commerce, California (south Los Angeles).
The Honeywell DPS-6 is the coolest member of this lot. I would not mind
having it but for a couple issues, primarily my lack of time for
embarking on a long-distance haul and my desire to rid myself of large
things at this point as opposed to acquiring them. And I already have
one, though it's in rough shape.
I'm going to give the Computer History Museum first dibs on the DPS-6.
The rest of the stuff is up for grabs. The company just wants it hauled
off and they need it gone within a month or so.
In case the CHM does not want the DPS-6 but you do, let me know. GCOS
(the OS for the DPS-6) was inspired by Multics. Some information here:
http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?GCOS
...and here:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/febcm/english/gcos_6_products.htm
So it could be a fun machine to hack on if you have the room.
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5 Apr
5 Apr
10:35 p.m.
This is probably an Ultimate system. The B01730 number corresponds
with a code that the Bull service people used to indicate that the user
was a Bull customer and the Ultimate System number.
It runs a oprocessor which runs the Ultimate version of Pick.
I have a lot of documentation on the DPS 6 and could help anyone
who wants to get this system up.
Jim Stephens
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
I've been contacted by a credit union in southern
California that has a
Honeywell DPS-6 among some other stuff.
The list includes:
Honeywell DPS-6
Spectralogic ST865 tape drive
Honeywell-Bull tape drive (in a large cabinet)
Something with model number B01730 (the only information I have on this)
The rest of the stuff is up for grabs. The company just wants it hauled
off and they need it gone within a month or so.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
6 Apr
6 Apr
4:28 a.m.
I'm a "pick-head" and that's why I'm eyeing that system :)
Jay
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This is probably an Ultimate system. The B01730
number corresponds
with a code that the Bull service people used to indicate that the user
was a Bull customer and the Ultimate System number.
It runs a oprocessor which runs the Ultimate version of Pick.
I have a lot of documentation on the DPS 6 and could help anyone
who wants to get this system up.
Jim Stephens
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> I've been contacted by a credit union in southern California that has a
> Honeywell DPS-6 among some other stuff.
>
> The list includes:
>
> Honeywell DPS-6
> Spectralogic ST865 tape drive
> Honeywell-Bull tape drive (in a large cabinet)
> Something with model number B01730 (the only information I have on this)
> The rest of the stuff is up for grabs. The company just wants it hauled
> off and they need it gone within a month or so.
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
5:51 a.m.
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Jay West wrote:
I'm a "pick-head" and that's why
I'm eyeing that system :)
I'll try to find out its dimensions so that you can determine if you want
to ship it.
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7 Apr
7 Apr
12:28 p.m.
the "b#####" may be a part of the DPS 6 ultimate system. That format
is suspiciously near the Bull Service number.. Please make sure that this
is not on something like the disk drives cabinets for the honeywell.
Also, since I'm in Southern California, I'd be glad to either go or
send a colleague up there to inspect the pile to make sure it is
grouped properly and carefully disassembled.
The Ultimate systems had pretty good cabling that might be taken
apart by amateurs or the uninitiated in curating old iron, but there may
be parts misplaced and packing considerations, especially to getting
the heads properly secured if indeed the "Bxxxxx" parts are drives.
They may be any of: 80mb, 300mb top load removeable, 160, 300
mb fixed, either SMD or ESMD drives.
Jim
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Jay West wrote:
I'm a "pick-head" and that's
why I'm eyeing that system :)
I'll try to find out its dimensions so that you can determine if you want
to ship it.
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12:42 p.m.
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, jim wrote:
the "b#####" may be a part of the DPS 6
ultimate system. That format
is suspiciously near the Bull Service number.. Please make sure that this
is not on something like the disk drives cabinets for the honeywell.
Also, since I'm in Southern California, I'd be glad to either go or
send a colleague up there to inspect the pile to make sure it is
grouped properly and carefully disassembled.
The Ultimate systems had pretty good cabling that might be taken
apart by amateurs or the uninitiated in curating old iron, but there may
be parts misplaced and packing considerations, especially to getting
the heads properly secured if indeed the "Bxxxxx" parts are drives.
They may be any of: 80mb, 300mb top load removeable, 160, 300
mb fixed, either SMD or ESMD drives.
Hey Jim.
Thanks for making yourself available. I'm sure you'll be a great help to
the folks who are wanting to claim this stuff. I'm still waiting for some
digital photos and will report back once I get them so we can figure out
the next move.
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1:03 p.m.
On a GCOS sort of note, I was cruising http://bitsavers.org last night and
noticed that Al has gotten a fair amount of Honeywell documentation up.
Though almost none of it is GCOS, there is a surprising amount of Multics
documentation.
Zane
6 Apr
6 Apr
5:48 a.m.
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, jim wrote:
This is probably an Ultimate system. The B01730
number corresponds
with a code that the Bull service people used to indicate that the user
was a Bull customer and the Ultimate System number.
It runs a oprocessor which runs the Ultimate version of Pick.
I have a lot of documentation on the DPS 6 and could help anyone
who wants to get this system up.
Ok, great. So the DPS-6 and AlphaServer have been claimed. Now that we
know what the B01730 is perhaps someone might want to claim it as well?
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