1 Sep
2015
1 Sep
'15
1:13 p.m.
I can boot to VAX/VMS 5.4-2, but on startup, I see this message:
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[RS1R4]RS1LOG.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[ORACLES]ORAUSER.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[ECMS4]LOGIN.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
Okay, so DUB0: isn't mounted, I guess.
ROHIT1$ show dev
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
R7CY2A$DIA0: Mounted 0 VMS54_2DISK 173289
134 1
ROHIT1$DUB0: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUB1: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUC10: Online 0
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
ROHIT1$MUA0: Online 0
Device Device Error
Name Status Count
FTA0: Offline 0
OPA0: Online 0
TWA0: Offline 0
Device Device Error
Name Status Count
IKA0: Offline 0
IMA0: Offline 0
INA0: Offline 0
PTA0: Online 1
PUA0: Online 1
PUB0: Online 2
PUC0: Online 2
PYA0: Offline 0
SJA0: Online 0
SJA1: Online 0
WSA0: Offline 0
XQA0: Online 0
Looks like they're online but not mounted. If I'm reading the help pages
correctly, I should just be able to mount it at this point:
ROHIT1$ mount dub0: disk0
%MOUNT-F-INCVOLLABEL, incorrect volume label
-MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = 'USER01 ', owner = ' ', format
=
'DEC
FILE11B '
I tried giving it the correct label, but it still didn't seem to mount. Now
I wanted to see if the MSCP server is running:
ROHIT1$ show device/served
MSCP-Served Devices on ROHIT1 1-SEP-2015 10:55:19.39
Queue Requests
Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts
%SHOW-E-MSCPNOTLD, MSCP-Server code not loaded
No, it doesn't look like it...so getting back to the >>> prompt, I do a bit
more investigation:
>>show dev
UQSSP Disk Controller 0
(772150)
-DUA0 (RF71)
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
-DUB0 (RA81)
-DUB1 (RA81)
UQSSP Disk Controller 2 (760340)
-DUC10 (RA81)
UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500)
-MUA0 (TK70)
Ethernet Adapter 0 (774440)
-XQA0 (08-00-2B-17-3F-37)
I should be able to get to the PARAMS> prompt now:
>>set host /dup/uqssp/disk 1 params
Starting DUP server...
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
Stopping DUP server...
>>
Or not? Why can't I seem to get to the prompt? I can with disk 0:
>>set host /dup/uqssp/disk 0 params
Starting DUP server...
UQSSP Disk Controller 0 (772150)
Copyright 1988 Digital Equipment Corporation
PARAMS> show allclass
Parameter Current Default Type Radix
--------- ---------------- ---------------- -------- -----
ALLCLASS 0 0 Byte Dec B
PARAMS>
Can't seem to get to PARAMS> with disk 2 or tape 0 either. Only disk 0
seems to work.
Can anyone provide any suggestions? I'd like to see what else is on the
system. Pictures here: http://imgur.com/a/WYGra
Thanks,
Kyle
1 Sep
1 Sep
1:23 p.m.
>> B/1 DIA0:
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Kyle Owen <kylevowen at gmail.com> wrote:
I can boot to VAX/VMS 5.4-2, but on startup, I see
this message:
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[RS1R4]RS1LOG.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[ORACLES]ORAUSER.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[ECMS4]LOGIN.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
Okay, so DUB0: isn't mounted, I guess.
ROHIT1$ show dev
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
R7CY2A$DIA0: Mounted 0 VMS54_2DISK 173289
134 1
ROHIT1$DUB0: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUB1: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUC10: Online 0
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
ROHIT1$MUA0: Online 0
Device Device Error
Name Status Count
FTA0: Offline 0
OPA0: Online 0
TWA0: Offline 0
Device Device Error
Name Status Count
IKA0: Offline 0
IMA0: Offline 0
INA0: Offline 0
PTA0: Online 1
PUA0: Online 1
PUB0: Online 2
PUC0: Online 2
PYA0: Offline 0
SJA0: Online 0
SJA1: Online 0
WSA0: Offline 0
XQA0: Online 0
Looks like they're online but not mounted. If I'm reading the help pages
correctly, I should just be able to mount it at this point:
ROHIT1$ mount dub0: disk0
%MOUNT-F-INCVOLLABEL, incorrect volume label
-MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = 'USER01 ', owner = ' ', format
=
'DEC
FILE11B '
I tried giving it the correct label, but it still didn't seem to mount. Now
I wanted to see if the MSCP server is running:
ROHIT1$ show device/served
MSCP-Served Devices on ROHIT1 1-SEP-2015 10:55:19.39
Queue Requests
Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts
%SHOW-E-MSCPNOTLD, MSCP-Server code not loaded
No, it doesn't look like it...so getting back to the >>> prompt, I do a bit
more investigation:
--
Bill
vintagecomputer.net
>>show dev
UQSSP Disk Controller 0
(772150)
-DUA0 (RF71)
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
-DUB0 (RA81)
-DUB1 (RA81)
UQSSP Disk Controller 2 (760340)
-DUC10 (RA81)
UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500)
-MUA0 (TK70)
Ethernet Adapter 0 (774440)
-XQA0 (08-00-2B-17-3F-37)
I should be able to get to the PARAMS> prompt now:
>>set host /dup/uqssp/disk 1 params
Starting DUP server...
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
Stopping DUP server...
>>
Or not? Why can't I seem to get to the prompt? I can with disk 0:
>>set host /dup/uqssp/disk 0 params
Starting DUP server...
UQSSP Disk Controller 0 (772150)
Copyright 1988 Digital Equipment Corporation
PARAMS> show allclass
Parameter Current Default Type Radix
--------- ---------------- ---------------- -------- -----
ALLCLASS 0 0 Byte Dec B
PARAMS>
Can't seem to get to PARAMS> with disk 2 or tape 0 either. Only disk 0
seems to work.
Can anyone provide any suggestions? I'd like to see what else is on the
system. Pictures here: http://imgur.com/a/WYGra
Thanks,
Kyle
1:47 p.m.
If you want I can turn on my 4000 and you can telnet into it to compare and
contrast. Contact me privately for credentials.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:23 PM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com> wrote:
--
Bill
vintagecomputer.net
>> B/1
DIA0:
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Kyle Owen <kylevowen at gmail.com> wrote:
I can boot to VAX/VMS 5.4-2, but on startup, I
see this message:
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[RS1R4]RS1LOG.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[ORACLES]ORAUSER.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUB0:[ECMS4]LOGIN.COM; as input
-RMS-E-DNR, device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable
Okay, so DUB0: isn't mounted, I guess.
ROHIT1$ show dev
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
R7CY2A$DIA0: Mounted 0 VMS54_2DISK 173289
134 1
ROHIT1$DUB0: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUB1: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUC10: Online 0
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
ROHIT1$MUA0: Online 0
Device Device Error
Name Status Count
FTA0: Offline 0
OPA0: Online 0
TWA0: Offline 0
Device Device Error
Name Status Count
IKA0: Offline 0
IMA0: Offline 0
INA0: Offline 0
PTA0: Online 1
PUA0: Online 1
PUB0: Online 2
PUC0: Online 2
PYA0: Offline 0
SJA0: Online 0
SJA1: Online 0
WSA0: Offline 0
XQA0: Online 0
Looks like they're online but not mounted. If I'm reading the help pages
correctly, I should just be able to mount it at this point:
ROHIT1$ mount dub0: disk0
%MOUNT-F-INCVOLLABEL, incorrect volume label
-MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = 'USER01 ', owner = ' ',
format
=
'DEC
FILE11B '
I tried giving it the correct label, but it still didn't seem to mount.
Now
I wanted to see if the MSCP server is running:
ROHIT1$ show device/served
MSCP-Served Devices on ROHIT1 1-SEP-2015 10:55:19.39
Queue Requests
Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts
%SHOW-E-MSCPNOTLD, MSCP-Server code not loaded
No, it doesn't look like it...so getting back to the >>> prompt, I do a
bit
more investigation:
--
Bill
vintagecomputer.net
>>show dev
UQSSP Disk Controller 0
(772150)
-DUA0 (RF71)
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
-DUB0 (RA81)
-DUB1 (RA81)
UQSSP Disk Controller 2 (760340)
-DUC10 (RA81)
UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500)
-MUA0 (TK70)
Ethernet Adapter 0 (774440)
-XQA0 (08-00-2B-17-3F-37)
I should be able to get to the PARAMS> prompt now:
>>set host /dup/uqssp/disk 1 params
Starting DUP server...
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
Stopping DUP server...
>>
Or not? Why can't I seem to get to the prompt? I can with disk 0:
>>set host /dup/uqssp/disk 0 params
Starting DUP server...
UQSSP Disk Controller 0 (772150)
Copyright 1988 Digital Equipment Corporation
PARAMS> show allclass
Parameter Current Default Type Radix
--------- ---------------- ---------------- -------- -----
ALLCLASS 0 0 Byte Dec B
PARAMS>
Can't seem to get to PARAMS> with disk 2 or tape 0 either. Only disk 0
seems to work.
Can anyone provide any suggestions? I'd like to see what else is on the
system. Pictures here: http://imgur.com/a/WYGra
Thanks,
Kyle
1:34 p.m.
Looks like they're online but not mounted. If I'm reading the help pages
correctly, I should just be able to mount it at this point:
ROHIT1$ mount dub0: disk0
%MOUNT-F-INCVOLLABEL, incorrect volume label
-MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = 'USER01 ', owner = ' ', format
=
'DECFILE11B '
I tried giving it the correct label, but it still didn't seem to mount. Now
I wanted to see if the MSCP server is running:
What happens if you try:
$ MOUNT /NOASSIST /SYSTEM DUB0: USER01
ROHIT1$ show device/served
MSCP-Served Devices on ROHIT1 1-SEP-2015 10:55:19.39
Queue Requests
Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts
%SHOW-E-MSCPNOTLD, MSCP-Server code not loaded
This will only affect the ability to mount locally attached disks from other
nodes in the cluster. It should not have any bearing on mounting them on the
same cluster node they are attached to.
No, it doesn't look like it...so getting back to the >>> prompt, I do a bit
more investigation:
SET HOST /DUP only works for DSSI disks - DUB0 is not a DSSI disk.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
>>show dev
UQSSP Disk Controller 0
(772150)
-DUA0 (RF71)
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
-DUB0 (RA81)
-DUB1 (RA81)
UQSSP Disk Controller 2 (760340)
-DUC10 (RA81)
UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500)
-MUA0 (TK70)
Ethernet Adapter 0 (774440)
-XQA0 (08-00-2B-17-3F-37)
I should be able to get to the PARAMS> prompt now:
>>set host /dup/uqssp/disk 1 params
Starting DUP server...
UQSSP Disk Controller 1 (760334)
Stopping DUP server...
>>
Or not? Why can't I seem to get to the prompt? I can with disk 0:
2:09 p.m.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Peter Coghlan <cctalk at beyondthepale.ie> wrote:
You could also try this so you don't have to specify the label
$ MOUNT /OVER=ID DUB0:
ROHIT1$ mount dub0: disk0
%MOUNT-F-INCVOLLABEL, incorrect volume label
-MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = 'USER01 ', owner = ' ', format
=
'DECFILE11B '
I tried giving it the correct label, but it still didn't seem to mount. Now
I wanted to see if the MSCP server is running:
What happens if you try:
$ MOUNT /NOASSIST /SYSTEM DUB0: USER01
2:25 p.m.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Peter Coghlan
<cctalk at beyondthepale.ie>
wrote:
You could also try this so you don't have to specify the label
$ MOUNT /OVER=ID DUB0:
No dice...
ROHIT1$ mount /over=id dub0:
%MOUNT-F-BITMAPERR, I/O error on storage bitmap; volume locked
-SYSTEM-F-FORCEDERROR, forced error flagged in last sector read
ROHIT1$ mount /noassist /system dub0: user01
%MOUNT-F-BITMAPERR, I/O error on storage bitmap; volume locked
-SYSTEM-F-FORCEDERROR, forced error flagged in last sector read
But it did work for DUB1:!
ROHIT1$ mount /over=id dub1:
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, BACKUP_DISK mounted on _ROHIT1$DUB1:
ROHIT1$ show dev
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
R7CY2A$DIA0: Mounted 0 VMS54_2DISK 173103
134 1
ROHIT1$DUB0: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUB1: Mounted alloc 0 BACKUP_DISK 1404072
1 1
ROHIT1$DUC10: Online 0
I'm not sure exactly which disk is DUC10:, but mount tells me the medium is
offline.
Still attempting to learn enough VMS to get a directory listing on DUB1:,
but I'm getting there! Thanks for the tips.
Kyle
>
> ROHIT1$ mount dub0: disk0
> %MOUNT-F-INCVOLLABEL, incorrect volume label
> -MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = 'USER01 ', owner = ' ',
format =
> 'DECFILE11B '
>
> I tried giving it the correct label, but it still didn't seem to mount.
Now
I wanted
to see if the MSCP server is running:
What happens if you try:
$ MOUNT /NOASSIST /SYSTEM DUB0: USER01
2:35 p.m.
No dice...
ROHIT1$ mount /over=id dub0:
%MOUNT-F-BITMAPERR, I/O error on storage bitmap; volume locked
-SYSTEM-F-FORCEDERROR, forced error flagged in last sector read
ROHIT1$ mount /noassist /system dub0: user01
%MOUNT-F-BITMAPERR, I/O error on storage bitmap; volume locked
-SYSTEM-F-FORCEDERROR, forced error flagged in last sector read
The disk (or less likely the controller) could be faulty but it's more likely
it has media errors in one of the not-good places to have errors :-(
You may be able to MOUNT it /FOREIGN but this will not allow file level access
but it might (with luck) allow it to be backed up with a view to restoring it
onto a working disk. It may also allow you to $ DUMP DUB0: /BLOCK=START=n
where n is some block number past where the errors are. Unfortunately, if it's
anything like RD type disks, exercising it may also make it worse.
$ MOUNT /NOWRITE might also be worth trying.
But it did work for DUB1:!
ROHIT1$ mount /over=id dub1:
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, BACKUP_DISK mounted on _ROHIT1$DUB1:
This has mounted it privately to your process. If you dismount it and instead:
$ MOUNT /NOASSIST /SYSTEM DUB1 BACKUP_DISK
it will be available to all users.
ROHIT1$ show dev
Device Device Error Volume Free Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks Count Cnt
R7CY2A$DIA0: Mounted 0 VMS54_2DISK 173103 134 1
ROHIT1$DUB0: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUB1: Mounted alloc 0 BACKUP_DISK 1404072 1 1
ROHIT1$DUC10: Online 0
I'm not sure exactly which disk is DUC10:, but mount tells me the medium is
offline.
It likely has problems like DUB0 :-(
Still attempting to learn enough VMS to get a directory listing on DUB1:,
but I'm getting there! Thanks for the tips.
Try this:
$ DIR DUB1:[*...] /SIZE /DATE
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
3:12 p.m.
On 9/1/2015 5:25 PM, Kyle Owen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Glen Slick
<glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, your disk has got problems. Either an actual hardware problem or a corrupted file
system.
The FORCEDERROR flag usually means a hardware problem - bad disk block. It means reading
the disk, the checksum failed and retries did not successfully read the data so the disk
controller has flagged the block as bad. It looks like this has happened in one of the
blocks for the storage bitmap that VMS uses in the interal file structure to maork used
blocks. Doing an ANALYZE /DISK /REPAIR dub0: may fix it. You also may have to
initialize the disk and run a bad block checker on it. Doing this will lose whatever data
is on the drive though so try the ANALYZE first.
Look in your VMS documentation in either the System Management Guide or the System
Utilities guide. There should be more information in one of those.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Peter Coghlan
<cctalk at beyondthepale.ie>
wrote:
You could also try this so you don't have to specify the label
$ MOUNT /OVER=ID DUB0:
No dice...
ROHIT1$ mount /over=id dub0:
%MOUNT-F-BITMAPERR, I/O error on storage bitmap; volume locked
-SYSTEM-F-FORCEDERROR, forced error flagged in last sector read
ROHIT1$ mount /noassist /system dub0: user01
%MOUNT-F-BITMAPERR, I/O error on storage bitmap; volume locked
-SYSTEM-F-FORCEDERROR, forced error flagged in last sector read
>
> ROHIT1$ mount dub0: disk0
> %MOUNT-F-INCVOLLABEL, incorrect volume label
> -MOUNT-I-VOLIDENT, label = 'USER01 ', owner = ' ',
format =
> 'DECFILE11B'
>
> I tried giving it the correct label, but it still didn't seem to mount.
Now
I wanted
to see if the MSCP server is running:
What happens if you try:
$ MOUNT /NOASSIST /SYSTEM DUB0: USER01
But it did work for DUB1:!
ROHIT1$ mount /over=id dub1:
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, BACKUP_DISK mounted on _ROHIT1$DUB1:
ROHIT1$ show dev
Device Device Error Volume Free
Trans Mnt
Name Status Count Label Blocks
Count Cnt
R7CY2A$DIA0: Mounted 0 VMS54_2DISK 173103
134 1
ROHIT1$DUB0: Online 0
ROHIT1$DUB1: Mounted alloc 0 BACKUP_DISK 1404072
1 1
ROHIT1$DUC10: Online 0
I'm not sure exactly which disk is DUC10:, but mount tells me the medium is
offline.
If the list of hardware in this <http://i.imgur.com/UKOa45R.jpg> is correct, then
I'd guess DUC10 is the Maxtor Erasable Optical Disk that's in the top of the
cabinet next to the tape drive.
DIA is your internal DSSI bus devices
DUBx are the drives on the Emulex QD34 SMD controller - PUB is the disk controller
device.
DUCx are drives on the CMD CQD-223TM controller (tape and disk) - PUC is the disk
controller device, PTB is the tape device
The Exabyte tape doesn't seem to be showing, unless that's MUA1, but it says TK70.
I can't tell if there is an actual TK70 drive behind that black smoked panel.
Still attempting to learn enough VMS to get a
directory listing on DUB1:,
but I'm getting there! Thanks for the tips.
Directory dub1:[*...] Will show you the whole drive, directory, by directory.
Do a "help directory" at the "$" prompt to get the command qualifiers
to show you specific information like owner, protection, file size, file dates
Kyle
3:12 p.m.
Yeah, your disk has got problems. Either an actual hardware problem or a
corrupted file system.
The FORCEDERROR flag usually means a hardware problem - bad disk block. It
means reading the disk, the checksum failed and retries did not successfully
read the data so the disk controller has flagged the block as bad. It looks
like this has happened in one of the blocks for the storage bitmap that VMS
uses in the interal file structure to maork used blocks. Doing an
ANALYZE /DISK /REPAIR dub0: may fix it. You also may have to initialize
the disk and run a bad block checker on it. Doing this will lose whatever
data is on the drive though so try the ANALYZE first.
ANALYZE /DISK /REPAIR dub0: requires the disk to be mounted first and the
forced errors on the bitmap likely won't allow that. It has a better chance of
working if the disk is backed up and restored onto a working disk, possibly an
emulated disk on simh or similar. ANALYZE /DISK /REPAIR is also a very blunt
weapon and when combined with media errors, it could mangle the disk much worse
so it's always a good idea to try it on a copy of the original.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
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