28 Nov
2011
28 Nov
'11
4:05 a.m.
Hello everybody,
I came across some MCS-48 SW project which I have to get into active
maintenance again. I have assembly source and listings. And some DOS
batch files wich run commands like C:\ISIS\ASM80\HEXOBJ. And there are
strange .CSD files which seem to contain some kind of build rules
similar to a makefile.
In the listings there's mentioned an ISIS-II ASM48 assembler. And an
ISIS-II linker as well. I *have* to get that stuff up and working again.
What I assume:
- ISIS-II is an Intel Intellec's OS.
- The Tools from ISIS-II have been ported to MS-DOS but still call
themselves "ISIS-II" in the listings they produce.
Am I right?
Does anybody have the software?
Heeeelp, I'm lost!
It would be very nice if one of this list could help me out. Any input
welcome!
Kind regards,
Philipp
28 Nov
28 Nov
11:30 a.m.
Hello Philipp,
I should have all of this on 8" floppies. Give me a bit to round it up
and I can send it to you.
Yes, the CSD are like makefile. I think the acronym is Command String
Definition and are command lines to the ISIS-II operating system.
ISIS-II is the operating system for Intel's development systems.
When you run an ISIS-II program under the emulator that exists, it will
not know any difference and will still call itself ISIS-II in the listings.
ASM80 is the assembler for the 8080 cpu. So maybe some of your stuff is
for that cpu rather than the 8048.
I'll get back to you. Or you can send me more details on what you need.
Take care,
Dave
Philipp Hachtmann said the following on 11/28/2011 7:05 AM:
Hello everybody,
I came across some MCS-48 SW project which I have to get into active
maintenance again. I have assembly source and listings. And some DOS
batch files wich run commands like C:\ISIS\ASM80\HEXOBJ. And there are
strange .CSD files which seem to contain some kind of build rules
similar to a makefile.
In the listings there's mentioned an ISIS-II ASM48 assembler. And an
ISIS-II linker as well. I *have* to get that stuff up and working again.
What I assume:
- ISIS-II is an Intel Intellec's OS.
- The Tools from ISIS-II have been ported to MS-DOS but still call
themselves "ISIS-II" in the listings they produce.
Am I right?
Does anybody have the software?
Heeeelp, I'm lost!
It would be very nice if one of this list could help me out. Any input
welcome!
Kind regards,
Philipp
12:53 p.m.
On 11/28/2011 5:05 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
Hello everybody,
I came across some MCS-48 SW project which I have to get into active
maintenance again. I have assembly source and listings. And some DOS
batch files wich run commands like C:\ISIS\ASM80\HEXOBJ. And there are
strange .CSD files which seem to contain some kind of build rules
similar to a makefile.
In the listings there's mentioned an ISIS-II ASM48 assembler. And an
ISIS-II linker as well. I *have* to get that stuff up and working again.
What I assume:
- ISIS-II is an Intel Intellec's OS.
- The Tools from ISIS-II have been ported to MS-DOS but still call
themselves "ISIS-II" in the listings they produce.
Am I right?
Does anybody have the software?
Heeeelp, I'm lost!
It would be very nice if one of this list could help me out. Any input
welcome!
Kind regards,
Philipp
I think Intel sold their development software to BSO (Boston Systems
Something or other) that might have ported it to other OSes like
MS-DOS - I don't believe Intel ever did. We transitioned from doing
software development on Intel blue boxes to VAXen which also hosted the
Intel tools.
I have a couple of 8 inch ISIS-II system disks, a couple of fortran
80 disks, a disk with adventure (colossal cave), an mcs48 development
disk (asm48, ice49, ctl49, etc), plm80, credit (editor), runoff, strtrk,
ice85, etc, etc. I'm reasonably certain I have mcs-51 development
tools, too. All total 14 disks.
It looks like there are some things that aren't archived on
bitsavers.org. I'd love to gift them to an organization for archival.
Bob.
1:24 p.m.
Hi Rob,
Am 28.11.2011 21:53, schrieb Rob Doyle:
I have a couple of 8 inch ISIS-II system disks, a
couple of fortran
80 disks, a disk with adventure (colossal cave), an mcs48 development
disk (asm48, ice49, ctl49, etc), plm80, credit (editor), runoff, strtrk,
ice85, etc, etc. I'm reasonably certain I have mcs-51 development
tools, too. All total 14 disks.
It looks like there are some things that aren't archived on
bitsavers.org. I'd love to gift them to an organization for archival.
I have seen some ISIS-II stuff on bitsavers - but at leaset the MCS-48
part was missing!
So now I still have no idea how to run the stuff from MS-DOS without
need for an Intel development box.
I actually know that exactly this *has* been done for the project I'm
working at.
Kind regards,
Philipp
2:22 p.m.
On 11/28/2011 2:24 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
Hi Rob,
Am 28.11.2011 21:53, schrieb Rob Doyle:
I *have* the MCS-48 tool set for ISIS-II on an 8 inch floppy. As far as
I know, all that stuff predates MS-DOS.
I know that there was an ISIS-II emulator/simulator for CPM. There
is also one for UNIX. See:
http://www.seasip.info/Unix/Thames/thames.html
Maybe there was one for MS-DOS?
Rob.
I have a couple of 8 inch ISIS-II system disks, a
couple of fortran
80 disks, a disk with adventure (colossal cave), an mcs48 development
disk (asm48, ice49, ctl49, etc), plm80, credit (editor), runoff, strtrk,
ice85, etc, etc. I'm reasonably certain I have mcs-51 development
tools, too. All total 14 disks.
It looks like there are some things that aren't archived on
bitsavers.org. I'd love to gift them to an organization for archival.
I have seen some ISIS-II stuff on bitsavers - but at leaset the MCS-48
part was missing!
So now I still have no idea how to run the stuff from MS-DOS without
need for an Intel development box.
I actually know that exactly this *has* been done for the project I'm
working at.
Kind regards,
Philipp
3:46 p.m.
Rob Doyle said the following on 11/28/2011 5:22 PM:
On 11/28/2011 2:24 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
There is an emulator for MS-DOS. At least two that I know of. One came
Hi Rob,
Am 28.11.2011 21:53, schrieb Rob Doyle:
I *have* the MCS-48 tool set for ISIS-II on an 8 inch floppy. As far
as I know, all that stuff predates MS-DOS.
I know that there was an ISIS-II emulator/simulator for CPM. There
is also one for UNIX. See:
http://www.seasip.info/Unix/Thames/thames.html
Maybe there was one for MS-DOS?
Rob.
I have a couple of 8 inch ISIS-II system disks, a
couple of fortran
80 disks, a disk with adventure (colossal cave), an mcs48 development
disk (asm48, ice49, ctl49, etc), plm80, credit (editor), runoff,
strtrk,
ice85, etc, etc. I'm reasonably certain I have mcs-51 development
tools, too. All total 14 disks.
It looks like there are some things that aren't archived on
bitsavers.org. I'd love to gift them to an organization for archival.
I have seen some ISIS-II stuff on bitsavers - but at leaset the MCS-48
part was missing!
So now I still have no idea how to run the stuff from MS-DOS without
need for an Intel development box.
I actually know that exactly this *has* been done for the project I'm
working at.
Kind regards,
Philipp
from Intel and I don't remember where the other one
came from.
I can email that easily. I will have to look a bit for the MCS-48
stuff, but I know I have it. Will have to cable up my Intel Development
System to a PC and use Kermit to transfer them.
Dave
29 Nov
29 Nov
6 a.m.
There is an emulator for MS-DOS. At least two that I
know of. One came
from Intel and I don't remember where the other one came from.
I can email that easily. I will have to look a bit for the MCS-48 stuff,
but I know I have it. Will have to cable up my Intel Development System
to a PC and use Kermit to transfer them.
Thanks for all your help!
I've read the emulator document. Sounds very reasonable. In my project,
I found batch files of the following form:
@ECHO OFF
ECHO Batch assembly of assembly files (*.SRC)
ECHO.
ECHO.
KDI BATCH C:\IBIS\PROJECTNAME\SUBPROJECT\CSD\KLASM(%1)
ECHO.
BEEP
ECHO.
ECHO.
PAUSE
This seems to correspond with the KLASM.CSD file that looks much like:
; DO ASM(SRC filename) Name: KLASM.CSD Date:
XX.XX.XX
; Assembly call
;
BATCH :F8:projxxx
CONTLINE ON
ASM48 :F2:%0.SRC &
OBJECT(:F3:%0.HEX) PRINT(:F4:%0.LST) &
MACROFILE NOCOND NOSYMBOLS PAGELENGTH(66)
CONTLINE OFF
C:\ISIS\ASM80\HEXOBJ :F3:%0.HEX TO :F3:%0.OBJ
;
But... If I'd use the emulator the way it's meant and even with that CSD
thing - why is there a DOS path in the file?!?
And what or who is KDI?
I'm still quite helpless... Seen anything of that before?
Regards,
Philipp
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