In a message dated 12/14/02 8:29:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, ipscone(a)msdsite.com writes: Well, the die on this one is clearly? marked "intel" with the early dropped "e". Is there anything stamped on the bottom of the chip, a date code or ? I really don't know the variations but I would not be surprised to see a white and gold version in any of intel's early chips. I am no help there. Paxton Astoria, OR Who is digging out his microscope to look at his 1702s.