5 Dec
1998
5 Dec
'98
1:52 p.m.
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 roblwill(a)usaor.net wrote:
-Networking software compatible with the internal
networking card (there"s a
plug next to the keyboard connector that looks like it wants to be connected
to some sort of network hub).
As far as I am aware, that's a weirdo keyboard connector. There's a
matching one in the monitor and the keyboard.
-An old Vectra keyboard? Can't get the numeric
keypad to work on the
keyboard I have.
-Networking hardware (mainly a hub and network cards)
I have a copy of DR-DOS 7.x with networking extensions. Will this work with
the Vectra (haven"t installed it yet)? For one thing, I don"t even know if
there"s something in setup that enables/disables the network card. I"d like
to use the built-in card, since most of the networked computers will be
8086"s -286"s, and speed isn"t an issue.
ThAnX,
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4:51 a.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
Hmm, sounds like USB, things don't change do they ;-)
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On Sat, 5 Dec
1998 roblwill(a)usaor.net wrote:
It's probably an HP-HIL (Hewlett-Packard Human Interface Link IIRC)
connector. This was an HP interface used for keyboards, mice,
touchscreens, digitising tablets, security dongles, etc. You can
daisy-chain several devices off the same connector. -Networking software compatible with the internal
networking card (there"s a
plug next to the keyboard connector that looks like it wants to be connected
to some sort of network hub).
As far as I am aware, that's a weirdo keyboard connector. There's a
matching one in the monitor and the keyboard. 
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5:32 a.m.
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
::> It's probably an HP-HIL (Hewlett-Packard
Human Interface Link IIRC)
::> connector. This was an HP interface used for keyboards, mice,
::> touchscreens, digitising tablets, security dongles, etc. You can
::> daisy-chain several devices off the same connector.
::
::Hmm, sounds like USB, things don't change do they ;-)
What about the Commodore serial bus? :-)
I got another Atari 800 over the weekend and decided to hook it up to play
Fort Apocalypse which I got in a batch of disks with the computer (I've
been wanting to play that damn game since the eighth grade but never got a
chance because all the other kids were computer hogs). I was struck at
how simple it was to hook everything up. Plug power into computer. Plus
power into disk drive. Plug cable between disk drive and computer. Stick
disk in drive and turn power on. Instant boot. USB? Pfeh!
Everything new in the computer realm was invented long ago. Engineers
just re-discover good designs. Heck, the mouse turns 30 this week!
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New subject: Meeses (was Re: OT HP vectra networking
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Sam Ismail wrote:
Everything new in the computer realm was invented long
ago. Engineers
just re-discover good designs. Heck, the mouse turns 30 this week!
Am I the only one who has never had enough space on my desk for a mouse?
(I hate meeses to pieces.) I've used the IBM trackpoint pretty much
exclusively ever since they came out with it.
I've had mice on the brain recently:
What was the first PC mouse, and how was it used? I think it was Mouse
Systems PC Mouse used with PC Paint in 1982, even before the Apple Lisa
hit the streets.
What was the first microcomputer mouse? I think it might be the same as
above, but microprocessor-based workstations like the Sun-1 might be
earlier.
The first pointing device? I'm pretty sure it was the light pen used with
the SAGE in the 1950's.
How about an exhaustive (?) list of pointing devices? Light pen, touch
screen, track ball, touch pad, keyboard, pen + digitizer, mouse pen,
trackpoint (eraser head), knee pointer, eye tracker, head tracker, ring
mouse, isopoint (tootsie roll), space ball (3-d trackball), joystick,
power glove, steering wheel.
More?
-- Doug
9:57 p.m.
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Invented and used.
Speaking of mice, I totally freaked out when I found out that 'PC's needed
*drivers* - being used to Amigas, Apples and Ataris. Of course all those
systems need some way of telling the computer how to communicate with
anything they are connected to - but, they put it discretely somewhere in
the operating system or in the hardware.
Nasos
::> It's probably an HP-HIL
(Hewlett-Packard Human Interface Link IIRC)
::> connector. This was an HP interface used for keyboards, mice,
::> touchscreens, digitising tablets, security dongles, etc. You can
::> daisy-chain several devices off the same connector.
::
::Hmm, sounds like USB, things don't change do they ;-)
What about the Commodore serial bus? :-)
I got another Atari 800 over the weekend and decided to hook it up to play
Fort Apocalypse which I got in a batch of disks with the computer (I've
been wanting to play that damn game since the eighth grade but never got a
chance because all the other kids were computer hogs). I was struck at
how simple it was to hook everything up. Plug power into computer. Plus
power into disk drive. Plug cable between disk drive and computer. Stick
disk in drive and turn power on. Instant boot. USB? Pfeh!
Everything new in the computer realm was invented long ago. Engineers
just re-discover good designs. Heck, the mouse turns 30 this week! 
8 Dec
8 Dec
8:46 a.m.
Athanasios Kotsenos wrote:
Speaking of mice, I totally freaked out when I found
out that 'PC's needed
*drivers* - being used to Amigas, Apples and Ataris. Of course all those
systems need some way of telling the computer how to communicate with
anything they are connected to - but, they put it discretely somewhere in
the operating system or in the hardware.
With Amigas, Apples and Ataris, there is a very limited collection
of such peripherals available, since the drivers discretely _in_ the
operating system is the whole set. Windows not actually being an
operating system, attaching external devices isn't that difficult, at
least during a week that Microsoft is feeling cooperative. And Intel.
Linux being a real operating system built from the ground to take
extensions, the device drivers have proper attachments in the kernel.
Oh, and kernel source code -- that does help.
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