Quothe Fred N. van Kempen, from writings of Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 05:08:37PM +0200: Why did you choose that title? There's nothing strange about people who collect and use older computers---the truly strange people are those who use Microsoft products and go around purchasing new products just to have something new, as opposed to being content with something that's familiar, well designed and pleasant to use. The same goes for older cars, vinyl LPs, etc. and those who use these and other older products/technologies. No, we're not weird. We have an active interest in using and preserving things that are typically well designed, and, surely many of us most certainly do not consider ourselves to be "geeks," finding that term to be offensive. We're not circus side-show freaks just because we have a sensible appreciation for useful vintage technology, be it related to computers, cars, horse-drawn buggies or equipment using valves/tubes. The problem is that far too many people in the present generations have no clues about the world in which they live, and by their cluelessness are destroying the world in which we live. See the aforementioned. No, we're not. Kindly refer to the book "Eccentrics" by Weeks and James, which presents proof that we're not; the book presents evidence showing that eccentrics are psychologically healthier than the conformist 'droids who are destroying this world. RDD -- Copyright (C) 2002 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.